AyeJay
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:38 am

2/ AyeJay and Fanbanlo have reported Charging Module Errors. The error message displayed is "Check EV light" which sounds like your (Hazeyone) "check electric vehicle system" Both had the Charging Module replaced (presumably the OBC) and have not reported errors since. It would be good if someone could post a photo of this error.

I think the error I had was "check electric vehicle system".

I don't know if this is related but a week or so before My OBC failure this happened to the display screen:

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(a strange multi-colored bar of what I'm calling 'electronic noise' on the right side). :?:

-- Has anyone else seen this one?

The car was still drivable but without all the on screen features.

This condition persisted for a short time (a few hours) then was never seen again.

-- My car has been performing flawlessly since the OBC replacement over a year ago.


My OBC failure report is at:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=176



. :)
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Hazeyone
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:46 pm

@ayejay, I got the Check Electric Vehicle System light. Looks like from your photo some sort of computer issue in your case for sure. My car was drivable and the system was ok except the guessometer range did not match the history I would get a record of 33kWh/100km one day and the next I would get 18kWk so the history was wacky maybe I had a computer issue to a lesser degree. My problem was getting a charge into the battery so I got stranded a couple of times, are you having this problem? Charging Stations would give "car has paused charging or charging is complete" error message even when the battery was quite depleted. Kia has been good about looking after it, they replaced my charge controller and other components. My Soul EV seems to be running good now.
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JejuSoul
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:22 pm

nibularr wrote:watching this problem closely since who knows who will get it...
my 2016 soulEV luxury was has a built tag of NOVEMBER 2015
i took a picture of my OBC sticker http://imgur.com/Ns9z83z


You have the latest version of the OBC. It has different firmware. I am assuming this is a fixed version. We don't know that for sure yet. There is now a report from Quebec that somone who had a replacement OBC has now had a second failure. I think the fixed versions appeared just before October 2015. Don't know how they fixed this error before this. Nibularr where is your build tag? and how did you get such a good photo of the OBC sticker?

The mfg date of the OBC is written after the version number 15L12 is 12th November 2015.

Hazeyone and AyeJay could you look at your car and tell us what the sticker on the OBC says. here's a photo of where to find it. (it will be there soon when I find my phone - I left it in the car! photo now added in post below.)
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Hazeyone
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:47 pm

Can't see my OBC super easy when I pop the hood....I see a sticker that says OBC main but is coded a bit differently, the bar code is not at the bottom it is at the top, and it says Mfg Date :20160111.
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:30 pm

Hazeyone wrote:Can't see my OBC super easy when I pop the hood....I see a sticker that says OBC main but is coded a bit differently, the bar code is not at the bottom it is at the top, and it says Mfg Date :20160111.

I think you have the same kind of OBC as mine. It is made by Daewoo Electronics Components Co Ltd. Mine says 20150212 (Month is in the middle). Why they have two manufacturers making the OBC I don't know. My guess is that they are identical to the Mando manufactured ones. Mando is the main supplier. They licence the tech from a firm called Diamond-Electronics in Japan. For some reason they are sub-contracting some of the work to Daewoo Electronics Components Co. So far the only known failure where we know who made the OBC is a Mando one. All the rest we don't know. Given that I think they are identical I think it is equally likely for either make to fail. I also assume you have the new version firmware. Hence yours won't fail again. If you happen to get hold of an OBD reader it would be interesting to know if that is correct.
Photo taken with the camera on the front of the car. I think it may be possible to get a better photo if your smartphone has a selfie stick and you put the phone down the gap between the OBC and the front of the car. But I don't have one.
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AyeJay
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:20 am

JejuSoul ...

My OBC is also labeled: 'Daewoo Electronics Components Co Ltd.' ... 'Date: 20141021' ... 'Lot: 14102MC'.

The label is actually peeling off/not stuck to the front of the OBC (at the location shown in your picture) very well ???

Edit: My other sticker (at the location on the side) says: 'Mando V10.1R 14K30'

It's been working great without any more problems since replacement..

.. AJ
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nibularr
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:57 pm

There are 2 stickers

I have taken a couple photos to show locations

Each one shows the 2 different brands
My front one says daewoo as well

http://imgur.com/a/arGIK

Hazeyone
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:56 pm

Mine is def. deawoo
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:20 pm

nibularr wrote:There are 2 stickers

Yes. Thanks. I hadn't spotted the one at the back. Great photos.
There is also a 3rd sticker on top which you can't see without taking the car apart.
So my car is Mando 11.1R 21st Feb 2015.

I am guessing that the fixed version is the 12.2R from late 2015.
Hazeyone, nibularr I assume your cars are fixed and free of this error.
Ayejay I think there is a >6% chance that your replacement OBC may also fail. My chances are the same. If so I hope that happens before the warranty expires.

Some info about the car in Quebec that has had the OBC fail twice.
Bought October 2014 - first failure October 2015 - second failure April 2016
Driven 56,000 km (April 2016)
"No error codes. When the Onboard Charger breaks down, the charging process cuts off after a few seconds. The three lights on the dash flash once then turn off. It becomes impossible to charge on 110V/220V. "
If someone from the Quebec forum reads this could you ask him to look at the failed OBC and post the version number and date.
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Re: Charging Fault error.

Wed May 25, 2016 8:43 pm

Hello..i am new to this forum and as per my knowledge it is typically a conservative estimate I've found by comparing the actual miles traveled compared to what is predicted to be available at the end of the trip. I think the range issues most people are having is coming from not really understanding how much the many factors affect it. Add to this the fact that the predicted range is just a best guess hence the term guess-o-meter.

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