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level 2 charging cables/charging rate

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:42 am
by zacmobile
Finally picking up our new Soul in two weeks but haven't gotten around to setting up a charging station yet and was just going to wing it with level 1 charging for now and see how that goes as it should keep up with our daily consumption. However after watching one of Byorn Nyland's newer videos on the Metron charging cables I thought that would be an inexpensive/less involved option.
https://youtu.be/hSqP8wa2nT4

Of course they're only available in Europe though but on some googling I see there are similar ones available in Canada https://www.amazon.ca/Charger-110V-240V ... YJ8VS9ZF9Q
HOWEVER, It's only 16A which is great as It's much easier and cheaper for me to install a 20A circuit and outlet instead of 40A and I think that would be plenty for our daily needs but reading the Soul's charging specs they only list one charging rate for level 2 (30A)

Sooo, basically my question is will the Soul play nicely if I give it a 240V 16A charge?

Re: level 2 charging cables/charging rate

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:45 pm
by BassCadet
I use a 120V/240V TurboCord at work and the Soul EV is fine charging from it. It is actually a BMW branded EVSE but same as the Aerovironment/Webasto version. 240V charges twice as fast as 120V at the same current. I think the Kia supplied charger is 8A@120V so 16A@240V will be four times faster.

If you can, however, I would recommend installing a 40A circuit. It would be useful in the future if you ever get a longer range BEV.

Re: level 2 charging cables/charging rate

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:08 am
by evsoulnow
Want to echo what @basscadet said - run a circuit which supports 40A continuous as that covers most things up to a Tesla at a reasonable charge rate (here in CO that's a 50A circuit which will support 40A sustained). Of course if you are installing it, it's just a material cost - but usually you are paying an electrician to do it - in which case the extra material costs are not that significant.

Re: level 2 charging cables/charging rate

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:11 pm
by JejuSoul
zacmobile wrote:...Sooo, basically my question is will the Soul play nicely if I give it a 240V 16A charge?

The answer to this is yes. But I also agree with the others that you should get the 40A.

Here is the data from my car charging from a 16A stand.

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Re: level 2 charging cables/charging rate

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:33 pm
by zacmobile
Thanks all, some good info there. I still think 20A will be more than sufficient for our needs however, here's my rationale: Stated range for Soul Limited is 385km (lets say 400 as all the first hand reports i've seen say 490km summer range is perfectly doable) Level one charging time from 0-100% is listed at 60hrs, Our daily commute is roughly 80km round trip so lets say that uses 25% capacity so would take 15hrs to top up to 100% (barely manageable overnight) so if 240V 20A is 3X faster then we'd be looking at 5hrs (totally doable overnight) The only time we'd be using over 25% of the battery capacity we would be on a long trip and would have to charge at a station somewhere.