edmondt
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Wed May 08, 2019 10:54 am

I decided to register after seeing this post :) I just bought one of those taxi: 2016 KIA SOUL EV. This guy has a few of these... you can give him a call: (416) 566-8131

beanman
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Wed May 08, 2019 3:30 pm

That's great congrats!
Which KMs did you get?
I called them yesterday and started asking questions the rep couldn't answer and said the manager would call me back.... never did.

Did you run soulspy or another app or you just took it on faith?

Could you DM the price you paid or how much of the asking you were able to go for?

Let's start a club !

edmondt
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Wed May 08, 2019 6:39 pm

LOL I asked to get the cheapest one, and he showed me one with the dented roof.

I drive it and I feel that I can pop the hood back so I bought it... Picking it up tomorrow :)

It has around 130K on it... And I just signed up for the EV rebate class to get another $1,000 off (don't tell him that) :)

One thing with these batch is that they never did the recall, so I'm looking to setup an appointment at KIA to get things done.

He typically has the best price already and I have shopped around.

JejuSoul
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Thu May 09, 2019 7:36 am

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You guys are talking about buying cars that were previously taxis.
The only taxi company that I know about in Canada that had a lot of Soul EVs was Teo Taxi in Montreal.
This company recently went bust :- Téo Taxi closes, leaving some 450 drivers unemployed
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This is an old comment from May 2017 :- Battery Ageing Model

Here is some info on a talk by Thierry St-Cyr from Taxelco (Téo Taxi, the EV Taxi company in Montréal — http://teomtl.com). They have L eafs, Soul EVs, and T eslas in their fleet.

They are doing range testing with Téo Taxi and the IVI institute : the put the car on dynamometers and run the car to empty.

They calculate an average degradation of 2.2% every 10,000km driven However, their situation is special because most of the time they charge on DC fast c hargers (77% of the time). This is higher than the degradation we are seeing on most of our cars.

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beanman
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Thu May 09, 2019 7:50 am

edmondt wrote:
It has around 130K on it... And I just signed up for the EV rebate class to get another $1,000 off (don't tell him that) :)

One thing with these batch is that they never did the recall, so I'm looking to setup an appointment at KIA to get things done.

He typically has the best price already and I have shopped around.


Thanks for the info. When it's at the Kia dealer getting the recall - they might just run additional tests on the battery.

If there's a carfax report on any of them I think it should be shown as a previous commercial registration in Quebec.

I'm going to try to find that newer study I came across on a Leaf forum about a week or two ago and post it here.
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notfred
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Thu May 09, 2019 9:12 am

One of the recalls includes flashing new firmware to the BMS which will reset the battery State Of Health to 100% until it relearns the battery's true state.

EVDee
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sun May 12, 2019 8:03 pm

So I'm another new member whose also noticed these for sale online and signed up so I could jump in here.

I'm hoping other buyers would be willing to share privately what they paid so I can get an idea if it's possible for me to budget this purchase earlier than I had planned. I completely understand if no one is willing, I only ask because my current vehicle is giving me grief and it'd be a massive help if I was finally able to purchase a proper replacement instead of chasing after unknown problems with this old 11 year old car, or just hoping nothing goes wrong every time I drive it anywhere..

Thanks for all the info so far! :geek:

rscamp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon May 13, 2019 3:20 am

I think most (all?) of these cars from Teo Taxi were purchased by dealers through Adesa auctions. As former taxis, they have the issues of commercial use (high mileage, more charge cycles, etc.) and would have had the white with bright green paint jobs of the taxi company. They also had radio equipment installed and may have holes in the dash repaired etc. They likely were stripped of their accessories (i.e. cargo shelf & net for Luxury trim) and may be missing the L1 charger, tire repair kit or a key fob. The resellers should deal with these issues. Perhaps the top portions of the all-white ones have been painted so they don't look like the original taxis.

I think these former taxis can be good deals for those who have less demanding requirements and a lower budget as long as the prospective buyers take these issues into account and the price paid reflects them. I see asking prices online ranging from about $10k for a 2016 to about $22k for a 2018.

I would suggest a 2018 might be a bit safer buy simply because it would have had less time to be commercially 'abused'.

I have been looking at a 2018 that has a battery health check result of 100%. This seemed impossible to me until I saw notfred's helpful post which indicated the battery health starts at 110%.

rscamp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon May 13, 2019 3:36 am

edmondt wrote:... And I just signed up for the EV rebate class to get another $1,000 off (don't tell him that) :)


This is the Plug 'n Drive Incentive program for used EVs. Anyone purchasing an EV to be registered in Ontario is eligible. I have received my certificate. :)

I would also suggest joining EV Society (www.evsociety.ca) and attending some local chapter meetings to rub shoulders with other knowledgeable EV owners - particularly if you are new to EVs. There are also some member benefits.

beanman
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon May 13, 2019 8:46 am

So, I hope to pick up a KW902 Bluetooth OBD2 dongle tomorrow.
Will it be obvious when pluged in (soulspy app already loaded on my phone) which stats are for overall SOHC and which ones are L1 L2 charge cycle counts?

I ran the "demo data" and can see various SOC % values, but I don't see # of charges L1/L2

Thank you

Just an additional note: Emailed with the author of that SouSpy branch, Henrik, he mentions that charge/discharge current & power are listed since the last BMS reset, but L1/L2 charge cycles are not available in that app. Does anyone know which app might show that?
Bonus question: Does anyone know how the current & power numbers he mentioned might relate to the # of charge/discharge cycles?

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