bijan
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:05 am

Looked up the carfax report on the car and the battery was probably replaced April 30th 2019 (only service reported and it was at Dorval Kia), and it's been driven under 1,000 km since then, because the odometer was noted by Kia at 125k km beginning of April and it's still below 126k km.

rscamp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:53 pm

rscamp wrote:
FueledUpRooster wrote:https://youtu.be/x0oFrloTuc0


Thanks for making the video! Much appreciated. Removing the shift knob is no problem but no matter what I try I can't even start to lift the console. Either I'm weak or it has stronger clips. :)


Further to this post, the dealer undertook the task of removing the console and discovered [drum roll] - the second fob! After recovering the fob and reconnecting a cut wire, not only do both fobs work but they were also able to program the extra fob I originally purchased. Suddenly, my operational fob count has tripled. LOL.

The battery seems good in this vehicle. After an extended period of warm weather city driving, I'm regularly getting a reported range around 220km after a full charge.

Tcalp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:07 am

Hey Guys,

I'm from Ottawa, a dealer in Toronto has one of these with 130KM (2016 Kia Soul EV Luxury Trim) with what looked to be original paint for $9950. I've put a deposit down, and thanks to this forum, saw the rebate offer for $1,000 from PlugNDrive.

I currently work from home and generally just need to run to the grocery store (generally 10KM or less in a day, rarely sometimes 80-100km in a day). I currently drive an old V6 Van that eats gas like it doesn't cost anything; Pretty excited...

rscamp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:23 am

Tcalp wrote:Hey Guys,

I'm from Ottawa, a dealer in Toronto has one of these with 130KM (2016 Kia Soul EV Luxury Trim) with what looked to be original paint for $9950. I've put a deposit down, and thanks to this forum, saw the rebate offer for $1,000 from PlugNDrive.

I currently work from home and generally just need to run to the grocery store (generally 10KM or less in a day, rarely sometimes 80-100km in a day). I currently drive an old V6 Van that eats gas like it doesn't cost anything; Pretty excited...


Your cost per km for fuel will drop dramatically. For comparison in Ontario, consider the cost of electrical energy equivalent to paying about $0.25/litre for gasoline.

Driving that little you can get away with L1 charging. Does the price include the stock (or a replacement) L1 EVSE?

Tcalp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:13 am

rscamp wrote:Driving that little you can get away with L1 charging. Does the price include the stock (or a replacement) L1 EVSE?


I hadn't actually thought to ask, but I do plan on calling later today for clarification.

thesalmonmousse
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:47 pm

Tcalp wrote:
rscamp wrote:Driving that little you can get away with L1 charging. Does the price include the stock (or a replacement) L1 EVSE?


I hadn't actually thought to ask, but I do plan on calling later today for clarification.


Be aware that the AUX, USB port and left 120W "cigarette lighter" are likely not functional. Also, mine was missing the compressor for the emergency tire repair kit (under the black foam dual compartment in the trunk). My dealer was unaware of these defects. You could use this to negotiate price down.

bijan
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:17 am

I think they mainly don't include the l1 charging cable. Also check the guessometer on 100% charge or on whatever percentage it's on and do the math. The range varies on the cars even with the same mileage. Some have had batteries replaced and most are eligible for battery replacement if the state of health of the battery is below 70% since warranty is 8 years 160k km. Mine had battery replaced and range on 100% looks to be about 130km or so. If it's below 100km I guess that might be eligible for replacement as EPA mileage is supposed to be 148km.

rscamp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:45 am

bijan wrote:I think they mainly don't include the l1 charging cable. Also check the guessometer on 100% charge or on whatever percentage it's on and do the math. The range varies on the cars even with the same mileage. Some have had batteries replaced and most are eligible for battery replacement if the state of health of the battery is below 70% since warranty is 8 years 160k km. Mine had battery replaced and range on 100% looks to be about 130km or so. If it's below 100km I guess that might be eligible for replacement as EPA mileage is supposed to be 148km.


I found I couldn't go by the GOM at all as a first guess at the battery health. When I first hopped in the car for a test drive it wasn't far from full and the range was less than 100km. In hindsight it must have been because of the way it was driven and WHEN it was driven (in the cold) very early this year before Teo Taxi went under. An early dealer SOH check claimed good condition.

A month ago the range was 178km (2018 model). This is mediocre for a gently driven 2018 in warm weather. What corrected the GOM the most was a deep discharge/charge cycle and subsequent warmer weather driving. Now it is 220+km - almost 25% more.

So, I would suggest also going into the menu and looking at the trip history. If it is full of inefficient trips (high kWh/100km) from months ago then I think the predicted range will be significantly underestimated.

bijan
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:53 am

rscamp wrote:I found I couldn't go by the GOM at all as a first guess at the battery health.

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So, I would suggest also going into the menu and looking at the trip history. If it is full of inefficient trips (high kWh/100km) from months ago then I think the predicted range will be significantly underestimated.


That's a great suggestion. I think I did notice some such trips at 270wh/km whereas I'm getting closer to 200.

I also did a long-ish test drive to make sure the guess o meter wasn't too far off.

rscamp
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:59 am

bijan wrote:
rscamp wrote:I found I couldn't go by the GOM at all as a first guess at the battery health.

...

So, I would suggest also going into the menu and looking at the trip history. If it is full of inefficient trips (high kWh/100km) from months ago then I think the predicted range will be significantly underestimated.


That's a great suggestion. I think I did notice some such trips at 270wh/km whereas I'm getting closer to 200.

I also did a long-ish test drive to make sure the guess o meter wasn't too far off.


You might also be able to delete history. I'm not sure.

If you can run it down low and do a full charge this made the most difference in the GOM estimate for me. 200 Wh/km seems like Model S/X territory. I'm averaging about 130 Wh/km for city driving in this Soul EV.

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