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Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:59 pm
by gday
Understand completely langemand.

I think I have found one that looks like a "genuine" 902 with no added name - they may have done it to get seen first on Amazon!

I will read all the postings again then make a decision what to do. Appreciate your help and hopefully I will be able to repay you with data from Canada if needed.

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:31 am
by Oinq
gday

I have a Obdlink MX, I already had it from my Peugeot iOn (iMiev Twin). For the twins we had to have this, since it was an exigent car :)

http://www.obdlink.com/mxbt/

Have a look, it works great with the Soul 2016. Got mine on amazon.

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:06 am
by gday
Thanks Oinq, but I have already ordered the Konnwei 902 that was recommended. However it is nice to see some proof that others work and since I am a "digital and electronic tinkerer" I may well buy others later.

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:56 am
by Oinq
gday wrote:Thanks Oinq, but I have already ordered the Konnwei 902 that was recommended. However it is nice to see some proof that others work and since I am a "digital and electronic tinkerer" I may well buy others later.


:mrgreen:

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:07 am
by ksoul2084
For the record I recently picked up this one and it seems to work fine with SoulSpy:

Panlong OBD2 OBDII Bluetooth Scanner Car Diagnostic Code Reader for Android

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07C3D ... UTF8&psc=1

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:35 am
by langemand
ksoul2084 wrote:For the record I recently picked up this one and it seems to work fine with SoulSpy:

Panlong OBD2 OBDII Bluetooth Scanner Car Diagnostic Code Reader for Android


The panlong has a very small buffer and/or low bluetooth throughput, and it fails to read the entire response to some commands. There are also some commands not understood by this dongle. I have made some workarounds in the app, so data will flow as expected most of the time, but please do not recommend this dongle for the Soulevspy app!
If the workarounds get in the way of KW902 working optimally, they will be removed, causing the app to miss data values and or work intermittently with the Panlong dongle.

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:09 am
by warren55
I have the Panlong also, and so far it works for my purposes, with some issues. At least you know that it does work, unlike some you might get that don't work at all. I had that issue when I used LeafSpy.
Just did a quick search on Amazon, and they do have the Konnwei KW902 in stock. https://smile.amazon.com/KONNWEI-Blueto ... r=8-6&th=1

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:55 am
by langemand
Oinq wrote:Have a look, it works great with the Soul 2016.

Well, the files you emailed me (thanks again!) has some weird-looking data, so I will not recommend the Obdlink MX dongle, until the dongle can be disregarded as the root cause for the malfunction.

The only dongle supported by the SoulEVSpy app is the Konnwei KW902.

KW902 is not necessarily better than the other dongles mentioned, it is just that the dongles are all different, and it is very complex to write an app that supports all the differences. And the KW902 is what I use for development and debugging. I have limited time for the SoulEVSpy project, so I have chosen to support one dongle. I feel it is a better use of my time to add reading of more data-values from the cars, which are now ALL Hyundai and Kia EV models, to a smaller or larger extent!

The differences between the car models is also complex to code and debug, but better worth the time it takes, IMHO.

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:27 am
by JejuSoul
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There's a dedicated thread about this topic here - recommended obd2 adapter?
The adapter I have and the one I continue to recommend is the Konnwei KW902.
We originally chose this one because it is the one recommended by both the LeafSpy app and the CanZE app.

Re: Soul Spy?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:47 am
by langemand
SOH calculation algorithm for the Kia Soul EV 2015 and 2016 has today been modified back, so it is now almost the same algorithm as was used by the app until february.

The app has displayed erroneously high SOH values since february, especially for cars having one or more bad cells!

From february until now, the SOH in the app has been calculated based on the average of min deterioration and max deterioration. This is the same way SOH is calculated by the Torque files (see https://github.com/JejuSoul/OBD-PIDs-for-HKMC-EVs).

The calculation based on average deterioration has now been proved wrong by a Kia Soul EV 2015: This car has been tested to be at 40% SOH by Kia, and having min det = 0% and max det = 64.7%, before as well as after the test by Kia.

The calculation used in app releases between february and Juli calculates the above values to SOH=77.7% - WAY too high!

The now updated calculation available in the latest release of the Kia Soul EV Spy app, calculates the above values to SOH=39.9%

So, in case you are wondering why the range of your car has dropped way below original range, without a similar drop in SOH displayed in the Soul EV Spy app, this error in SOH calculation could be the cause!