langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:52 am

JejuSoul wrote:A data point from ZuinigeRijder where neither the new algorithm by Elmil, or the Torque algorithm, match the official KIA reading.
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The difference may well be due to the max det not being the same at the time of the official SOH reading, according to ZuinigeRijder: "So I cannot compare exactly with the SOH readout (I did not measure with Torque just before I left the car at the garage)."

And Elmils formula is still closer to the official SOH than the current formulas used in Torque, and SoulEVSpy.
Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:16 am

JeroenE wrote:
langemand wrote:I experienced this myself today! Took the car for a 400 km drive, and when I stopped, the app was completely unresponsive. Neither the soulspy.log file or the SoulData file had been updated for 80 minutes.

I attached the debugger to the phone and found a deadlock error in the lock-handling. I have made a new release with a fix for that, which should be available on google play store within some hours.
Thanks, I got it on sunday afternoon.


No, you didn't. The release with this fix still isn't available from Google Play Store. Apparently I forgot to complete the release last night (I was kind of tired after all that driving). Since it isn't out anyway, I will take a second look to ensure I don't mess up something else with the fix, and see if I can find a way to trigger the hang more often in my car, so I can verify that the fix solves the problem, before releasing the fix.

JeroenE wrote:Unfortunately in my case it hasn't helped. It still crashed 2 times.

You haven't reported crashes before, and google haven't recorded any for the past days. Do you mean that the app froze again, or is this another type of issue?

JeroenE wrote:I've sent you an email with edited logfiles. I hope you can still use them.

Thanks, I will respond by email, after I have time to look at them.

JeroenE wrote:Edit: my Soul is from August 2014 (when it arrived in The Netherlands), I think that's model year 2015.

If you will share the letter in the VIN that indicate the model year, we can see. Actually, if you let me know the first part of your VIN, before the serial number, I can see if the trim-code matches correlates with the cars having 206 for these values. The first part of the VIN encodes the make, model, trim level and manufactoring plant, as well as the model year).

This is the VIN from a 2015: "KNDJX3AE1F7005477". The "F" indicates that it's a 2015, it would be "E" if it was a 2014, and "G" for a 2016.
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Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

JeroenE
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:33 am

Sorry if I was unclear. The app stops doing anything and I have to force quit in Android and restart. Just now, on the way back this happened quite a few times.

Just for reference, what do you mean with a crash? Does the app completely disappear in that case? Or do I get some kind of "oops, I crashed. Please enter what you were doing and press on send" kind of screen?

My VIN starts with KNAJX81EFF7.

The SOH in Soul Spy has changed. It now says 51.7%.

The max deterioration is 54.2 and min is 0.

langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:38 am

JeroenE wrote:Sorry if I was unclear. The app stops doing anything and I have to force quit in Android and restart. Just now, on the way back this happened quite a few times.

No problem. I will find a way to reproduce the issue reliably, and release a fix ASAP.

JeroenE wrote:Just for reference, what do you mean with a crash? Does the app completely disappear in that case? Or do I get some kind of "oops, I crashed. Please enter what you were doing and press on send" kind of screen?

It just disappears (and then Google receive a crash report, probably at the next start of the app). The "bluetooth connect" will be off when the app is restarted, and I believe it will restart on the DC chargers page, like when you have terminated it.

JeroenE wrote:My VIN starts with KNAJX81EFF7.

My old soul VIN starts with KNAJX81EFF7, and it had sensible temperature values for battery heater 1 and 2.
Hmm - perhaps a BMS firmware update has broken those values?

JeroenE wrote:The SOH in Soul Spy has changed. It now says 51.7%.

The max deterioration is 54.2 and min is 0.

I guess the max deterioration of your bad cell(s) has improved a bit. It is quite common for these values to fluctuate, as the BMS re-evaluate the battery state after a long drive, or a charge from low to high SOC, or after balancing the batteries.

Your car is still overdue for a battery replacement. Elmils new, improved formula puts the SOH at 53.7%, which is still way below 70%
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Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

mysoulev
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:07 am

It's been awhile since i last visited this topic, glad to see that Soulspy is alive again.

I have a 2019 Luxury in Canada.
just downloaded 0.1.1-4522
ELM327 OBD 2 Bluetooth V 1.5 Adapter from eBay
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/ELM327-OBD-2-OBD2-OBDII-Bluetooth-V-1-5-Adapter-Auto-Scanner-TORQUE-ANDROID/272296529591?hash=item3f66234eb7:g:1vIAAOSwykZZ6~lK

app seems working except i don't see SOH and TPMS info.

I will email the log file to langemand

thanks to all of you for all the hard work !
Andy - SoulEV
"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses." BL - Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers

langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:22 am

mysoulev wrote:ELM327 OBD 2 Bluetooth V 1.5 Adapter from eBay
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/ELM327-OBD-2-OBD2-OBDII-Bluetooth-V-1-5-Adapter-Auto-Scanner-TORQUE-ANDROID/272296529591?hash=item3f66234eb7:g:1vIAAOSwykZZ6~lK

app seems working except i don't see SOH and TPMS info.

Just a warning: I have a dongle that looks like this, but is version ELM327 v2.1, and it doesn't work with the app at all!
Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

mysoulev
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:31 am

langemand wrote:
mysoulev wrote:ELM327 OBD 2 Bluetooth V 1.5 Adapter from eBay
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/ELM327-OBD-2-OBD2-OBDII-Bluetooth-V-1-5-Adapter-Auto-Scanner-TORQUE-ANDROID/272296529591?hash=item3f66234eb7:g:1vIAAOSwykZZ6~lK

app seems working except i don't see SOH and TPMS info.

Just a warning: I have a dongle that looks like this, but is version ELM327 v2.1, and it doesn't work with the app at all!



just sent you the log file.
i was worry too when i saw your earlier warning in the thread, glad to receive version 1.5
i avoided the version 2.1 (also on eBay) which was quit a bit cheaper.
Andy - SoulEV
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JeroenE
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:10 am

langemand wrote:My old soul VIN starts with KNAJX81EFF7, and it had sensible temperature values for battery heater 1 and 2.
Hmm - perhaps a BMS firmware update has broken those values?
I can only tell you my car had a firmware upgrade last May. I don't know exactly what was updated, as far as I know this is the first update that the car got.

JeroenE wrote:The SOH in Soul Spy has changed. It now says 51.7%.

The max deterioration is 54.2 and min is 0.

I guess the max deterioration of your bad cell(s) has improved a bit. It is quite common for these values to fluctuate, as the BMS re-evaluate the battery state after a long drive, or a charge from low to high SOC, or after balancing the batteries.[/quote]I checked my screenshots and last week it was anywhere between 52.1% and 59.1%. Currently its 54.2%.

Your car is still overdue for a battery replacement. Elmils new, improved formula puts the SOH at 53.7%, which is still way below 70%
Yes, that's why I'm getting a new one this week.

I'll ask if I can have the SOH reports of the old and new battery.

langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:14 pm

I have released BETA 0.1.1-4527 on google play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... .soulevspy

This should fix the issue of the app freezing up: Not communicating with the dongle, and not responding to UI. As far as I can tell, the problem was first introduced with BETA 0.1.1-4479 released on August 7.

Other recent improvements in the app during the past few months:
- Stability improvements
- The DC Charger list now links to both goingelectric.de page for chargestation, as well as google map routing to the chargestation.
- Tire pressure can be displayed in psi or bar, according to Settings
- Remove LDC page for models where LDC data is not read from the car
- Fix battery cell map to display current data immediately, when selected
- Setting for each of the 7 supported car models: Kia e-Soul 2020, Kia e-Niro, Kia Soul EV 2014-2019, Kia Ray EV, Hyundai Kona EV, Hyundai Ioniq EV, Hyundai BlueOn EV
- Add car model details for Hyundai Kona and Kia e-Niro
- SOH calculation corrected (had been displayed way too high since february release!)
- Attempts to improve results for "semi-bad" dongles
- VMCU, TPMS, BMS and OBC data for Ioniq, e-Soul, e-Niro and Kona EV
- Basic support for all Kia and Hyundai EVs
- and more
Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

JeroenE
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:23 pm

Thanks, I'll try this afternoon and let you know.

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