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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:50 am

edzee3 wrote:The comments on the "engine sound" seem to mixed; some have it , some don't ?

I don't have it when moving slowly forward (1-5 mph).


I think the reason some people 'have it' and some people 'don't' is because of the nature of the "engine sound". It is a high-frequency whine, and whether or not someone can hear that whine may depend on a persons age (we lose sensitivity to high frequency noise as we get older). I find it quite irritating myself, and am considering removing it, though based on Jeff's comments, will probably keep it.

I typically hear it when driving at lower speeds when next to a car or a barrier of sorts (so the sounds reflects). This was only when the windows were down.

I can almost always hear the backup noise though. That's very distinct, and I actually like having that.
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edzee3
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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:31 pm

It's been a long time for any new comments on this item.

I still have a problem with this PWS system: I have NO sound when going forward. When I 'm in a parking lot, slowly driving behind walkers, nobody hears the car (and neither do I).

I saw a posted comment that the PWS sound was "A very fast musical burble, almost sounds like a grinding brake but more pleasant." Is this the sound I should hear ?

When car is stationary and I put the gear in Reverse, I get a reasonably loud reverse-beeping sound. Therefore, I figure I should hear the PWS sound if I put the gear in Drive, even while stationary, But I hear nothing.

I have not talked to KIA Service about this; I have no confidence in my KIA Service.

Any advice welcome.
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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:35 am

In drive there is no sound when stationary. It only makes a sound when moving and only up to 20kph, after that there is enough tyre and wind noise that it doesn't bother making the sound.

I think that the same speaker is used for both the forwards burble and the reversing bong, so if it is making one and not the other then you are deep into the electronics to fix.

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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:50 pm

Thanks for good reply. And I must assume that the PWS Burble is quite audible to the driver with the car windows open, when car is moving , up to 20 km.hr..
I checked the backup beeping ; is coming from the left-front corner, so must share speaker with forward travel PWS sound.
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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:20 am

edzee3 wrote:Thanks for good reply. And I must assume that the PWS Burble is quite audible to the driver with the car windows open, when car is moving , up to 20 km.hr..
You can hear it best with the radio off and windows open and driving slowly. Once you know how it sounds you might hear it even with the window closed. Of course, when you have the radio on it is more difficult to hear.

The best way to test is ask someone else to listen outside of your car or let them drive so you can try to hear it.

I wouldn't say it sounds like a grinding brake. It's a little bit of music. The volume is way lower than the reverse warning sound.

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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:23 pm

There is a new story out on the subject in the NY Times: " Why Quiet Cars Are Getting Louder", https://nyti.ms/2qGvXoa

So it will be required in the U.S. for all EVs, as of Sep '20.

I will be asking my local KIA service to fix it for me. I have the loud beeping when selecting Reverse gear. The loud beeping comes from a speaker in the left-front corner. No sounds from the back of the car, unlike what I expected for a backup-warning.

Also, I consider the PWS as a safety system, but I don't see it listed in the KIA lists of Safety features.

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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:12 am

edzee3 wrote:Also, I consider the PWS as a safety system, but I don't see it listed in the KIA lists of Safety features.
I'm not sure what list you're referring to. In my manual the VESS is mentioned in the "green chapter" on page 47.

There is a whole chapter about safety (chapter 3) but this only mentions things for the safety of the driver and passengers like seats, seatbelts, airbags and so on. Other safety features like ABS, ESC, ESS, VSM and so on are mentioned separately in chapter 5. But as far as I can tell there is not really a list of all these systems.

I've got a Dutch manual so your American manual might be completely different.

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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:00 am

Re: The advertised "Safety" Systems, I was referring to is the list on the placard pasted on the window; there when I bought the car.
The list had 9 lines with items like airbags and tire pressure monitoring. Certainly not a complete list, and can be arbitrary .

So I took my car back to the dealer and asked them to get the PWS FORWARD sound working. I pointed out that the REVERSE sound was working, from the speaker in the LF corner.
They had the car for 3 hrs. (I had other appts.) and did not fix the PWS. The Tech report was; "signal going to speaker for split second, then stopping. Need to trace all connections".

They said; need the car for a minimum of 1 full day to work on it.

I may live with this problem.

Maybe I'll get a duck horn to use as needed in parking lots ?

Ed
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Re: Pedestrian Warning System

Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:05 am

Does anyone know how to deactivate this sound. It's high pitch drives me totally crazy. It's too much. I like the second horn from my first gen chevy volt.

I don't mind if people think I'm an asshole for honking at them. This noise bothers me so much I'm thinking Selling the car. Even if I take a loss.

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