Astro57
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:23 pm

Well I have the scanner, not sure how to check the battery yet. Also not sure how to upload the ELM327 photo, or any photo.

The dealer had the car for the day for some tests. They said that Kia Canada suggested we change our driving habits. So 108km is normal for a 7 month old 2017 Kia Soul in their eyes, we don't use the A/C, don't drive at night, I guess we better turn the radio off. Kia service support in Canada is the worst.
Dave, 2017 Soul EV Luxury, Titanium

SoulEV2016
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:40 am

108km is impossible for an estimate range.
I drive at 153km/h with regulator and hard driving on mountain zone.

And my estimate range is 135km at 36°C and 114km at -2°C.
I leave the A/C/Heater at 22°C all the time and drive with night lights always ON.

I drive my car like an ICE car and with NO-ECO DRIVE profil.
Kia Soul EV 2016 Ultimate 27 kWh - Mountain hard driving (fast). Drain 1/3 of Battery after 32km. - Unlimited highway speed (153km/h at regulator).

Astro57
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Location: Thunder Bay Ontario

Re: Sudden Range Issues

Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:32 pm

The dealer decided to have another look at my vehicle, they don't believe Kia Canada either. After more test driving they decided to change what they referred to as the "brain". That would be the second time. It is a box the size of a thick briefcase on top of the motor. I get new key fobs every time they change it. All seems well now. Range worked its way up to 157km.
Dave, 2017 Soul EV Luxury, Titanium

Astro57
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Location: Thunder Bay Ontario

Re: Sudden Range Issues

Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:21 am

Well, today the 12 volt battery is stone dead. I am looking forward to getting out of this purchase one day. Constant issues with this thing.
Dave, 2017 Soul EV Luxury, Titanium

SoulEV2016
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:35 am

perhaps a DC-DC converter in fault (or the GPS cluster that it doesn't go in deep sleep) ... too.
but 3 drop to 0v for a starter ACID battery and she is dead.

so replace it with full charge before ... and survey the battery during 1 month (1 time per week, test the voltage and note on TXT file).
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Kia Soul EV 2016 Ultimate 27 kWh - Mountain hard driving (fast). Drain 1/3 of Battery after 32km. - Unlimited highway speed (153km/h at regulator).

Astro57
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Location: Thunder Bay Ontario

Re: Sudden Range Issues

Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:23 pm

Went see the dealer, there was an update for the 12 volt battery issue, hopefully that was the issue. Also another update that corrected how the range was calculated. After the update my range went from 134 km to 162 km. Same day
Dave, 2017 Soul EV Luxury, Titanium

notfred
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:14 am

That's a BMS update where the BMS firmware gets reset. The fix is meant to be for battery heating in cold climates, not range recalculation. Over the next week or so as it learns your driving style you may find it drops back to where it was before.

Astro57
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:45 pm

notfred wrote:That's a BMS update where the BMS firmware gets reset. The fix is meant to be for battery heating in cold climates, not range recalculation. Over the next week or so as it learns your driving style you may find it drops back to where it was before.


Hmmm, so you are saying bad is normal for these Kia's. That sucks.
Dave, 2017 Soul EV Luxury, Titanium

notfred
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:14 am

You've posted saying you got a GOM of 108km which I would consider a problem, but then you just posted that you got a GOM of 134km which could be reasonable if you are driving at high speed on the highway.

The Soul has great room inside, all my coworkers love it when we take it for lunch, but it is an unaerodynamic box. Drag squares with speed, and power required cubes with speed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)#Power

If you are regularly driving over 80kph and are getting a GOM of 134km then that's reasonable. If you are only getting a GOM of 108km or are always driving at less than 80kph then I think you have a battery problem.

Astro57
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Re: Sudden Range Issues

Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:59 am

Just to follow up. Since the updates, the vehicle range has now been predictable based on the kw per 100 and the weather. All is well.
Dave, 2017 Soul EV Luxury, Titanium

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