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Thanks, Jeju.

In terms of the actual numbers that I posted, is it fair to say that I have lost roughly 5% of my battery? I understand that Kia keeps some in reserve, such that my battery will still have 100% of it's original usable range even after losing some capacity. In other words, if we think of the original battery as providing 110%, is it it fair to say that I now have around 105% left? (Or more accurately, 95% of 110)


Fwiw, I also use Torque and have been following the battery aging thread for years, but I find Torque more difficult to set up, and all I really care about is knowing the battery SOC. If soul spy has the same data as Torque for those values, I'll probably just use soul spy.
 
BigEdgar said:
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Fwiw, I also use Torque and have been following the battery aging thread for years, but I find Torque more difficult to set up, and all I really care about is knowing the battery SOC. If soul spy has the same data as Torque for those values, I'll probably just use soul spy.
Yes, I completely agree. Torque is a hassle.
What you actually want is the SOH - State of Health.

Your car started with 27kWh usable and a 3kWh buffer and 0.5kWh that is always reserved.
You now have 27kWh usable and 0,75kWh buffer and the 0.5kWh that is always reserved.

At this rate it will probably be 15 years before you have to worry about the battery.

If SoulSpy could just show this single data point in a simple way then I would recommend it above Torque, even though it is still alpha software.

Here's an image from Torque showing no deterioration on a brand new car. - 2015 Soul EV: My Battery Replacement Story
I think this screen is highly confusing, but because of the limitations of Torque it's about the best that software can do. SoulSpy could do so much better.
Note SOH is derived from Min and Max deterioration. You cannot guess SOH by looking at the two measurements for SOC.

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Thanks very much for the detailed explanation (and for everything else you've done to help all of us understand our Soul EVs better - I've really appreciated your contributions and leadership for these past few years!).

I don't have the SOH numbers on my Torque, so it looks like I need to update my data files. I'll do that.
 
JejuSoul said:
Note SOH is derived from Min and Max deterioration. You cannot guess SOH by looking at the two measurements for SOC.

Hi, can someone please explain the definition of min deterioration and max deterioration for me?
Thanks
Ekhaat
 
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Quick Answer. Now.
Long Answer later.

Min is short for minimum. It is used to mean the the least or lowest amount.
Max is short for maximum. It is used to mean the the most or largest amount.
Deterioration is a measure of how much the battery has degraded from its initial total capacity.

There are 96 cell pairs. We get to see the voltages for all of them.
But they only show us the degradation on 2 of the cells. The one with the most and the one with least.

Hence Min and Max deterioration are percentages of capacity lost for the best and worst cell pair.
 
JejuSoul said:
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Quick Answer. Now.
Long Answer later.

Min is short for minimum. It is used to mean the the least or lowest amount.
Max is short for maximum. It is used to mean the the most or largest amount.
Deterioration is a measure of how much the battery has degraded from its initial total capacity.

There are 96 cell pairs. We get to see the voltages for all of them.
But they only show us the degradation on 2 of the cells. The one with the most and the one with least.

Hence Min and Max deterioration are percentages of capacity lost for the best and worst cell pair.

Thanks. I thought it was just that, but wasn't sure.
Cheers
 
Hmm, I downloaded Soul Spy from the lates link I could find here, but it doesn't want to connect to my OBDII dongle. Torque Pro has no problem. Any ideas?
Cheers
Ekhaat
 
ekhaat said:
Hmm, I downloaded Soul Spy from the lates link I could find here, but it doesn't want to connect to my OBDII dongle. Torque Pro has no problem. Any ideas?

The Soul EV Spy has never been tested with any other dongle than the Konnwei KW902 (to my knowledge). Is that the dongle you are using?

If you want, you can email me the soulspy.log file from the SD card Downloads folder, so I can take a look at where it fails.
My email: [email protected]
 
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4F1 88 1F 00 00 00 6902B0 85 F7 00 07 02 00 016291 00
200 00 2011641531601F1202202A12A247F525242B0 85 F7 00 07 13 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 03 64
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 151601642022202A12A4B04B1523524433 055C 55F5615675875884F2 00 4F02B0 85 F7 00 07 64 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00201153160161F12022202A12A2475235242B0 85 F7 00 07 75 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 05 62
291 00
200 00
201 81 00 151601642022202A2A24B04B1523524F2 00
4F0 00
590 07 04 00 00 91 00 2C 7B
58F 00
2B0 86 F7 165291 00
120 00 202011531601641F1202202A12A247F5175252455D55E5F0 00
2C0 3D 00 00 00 00STOPPED

>AT CRA 4F2
.OK

>AT MA
.2B0 86 F7 00 07 DC 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0C 7B
291 00
050 00
200 00
201 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 41
153 00
160 00
164 00
1F1 00
202 22 00 00 00 00 00 23 01
220 03 04 14 04
2A1 00
2A2 05 00 00 00 00 00
47F 00
523 8C 38 3A 3A 3B 3A 00 00
524 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
2B0 85 F7 00 07 FD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D 7A
291 00
018 28 00 01 70 01 00 20 50
200 00
164 153160201202222A12A24B04B15252443355C 55F5615675875884F2 00 4F02B0 86 F7 00 07 FE 00 00 00 165291 00
200 00 201153161641F12022202A12A47F5235242B0 85 F7 00 07 DF 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0F 78
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 151601642022202A12A4B04B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
590 07 04 00 00 91 00 2C 7B
58F 00
2B0 89 F7 165291 00
200 002011531601641F1202202A12A247F5252455D55E2C0 3D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
2B0 85 F7 00 07 31 00 00 00
16291 00
200 00 201153160162022202A12A24B04B510523524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 05757A57B4F24F2B0 85 F7 00 07 02 00 00 00165291 00
200 00 201151601641F12022202A2A247F5235257F4335815822B0 88 F7 01 07 D3 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 03 76565257065320020202153160164222912A12A24B04B152524654654F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 88 F7 01 07 A4 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 05959559654220201202153160161F12202912A12A247523524597595E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
2B0 85 F7 00 07 75 00 00291 00
110 D020015160164201202222A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 00 692B0 85 F7 00 07 46 00 0165291 00
200 00 201153160161F12022202A12A2475235242B0 88 F7 01 07 97 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 70
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 151601642022202A2A24B04B152352433 055C F55F5615675875884F2 00 4F02B0 85 F7 00 07 A8 00 00 00
165291 00
200 002011531601641F2022202A12A247F525242B0 86 F7 00 07 89 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 09 7E
291 00
200 00
201 81 00 153161642022202A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
590 07 04 00 00 91 00 2C 7B
58F 00
2B0 86 F7 165291 00
120 00200201151601641F1202222A12A247F5175252455D55E5F0 00
2C0 3D 00 00 002B0 85 F7 00 07 9B 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00 201153160162022202A12A24B04B510523524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 57957A57B4F4F02B0 85 F7 00 07 EC 00 00 0016291 00
200 00
201531601641F1202202A12A247F5252457F433581582570 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 06565265365420201202153160162202912A12A24B04B5235246554F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 02B59559654220201202153160161F12202912A12A247523524597595E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0F 78
2B0 85 F7 00 07 DF 00 00291 00
110 D200153161642012022202A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 0051A6902B0 85 F7 00 07 20 0165291 00
050 00200201531601641F1202222A12A247F523522B0 86 F7 00 07 01 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 01 76
291 00
018 28 00 01 200153160162012022202A12A24B4B152352443355C55F561 565875884F2 00 4F02B0 85 F7 00 07 02 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00 201151601641F1202222A12A247F523522B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 03 64
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 153160164202222A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
590 07 04 00 00 91 00 2C 7B
58F 00
2B0 85 F7 016291 00
200 00 201151601641F1202222A12A247F5235255D55E2C0 3D 00 00 00 00 00 00 002B0 86 F7 00 07 45 00 00 00
165 291 00
200 00
20153160164202222A12A24B04B151052524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 05795757B4F24F02B0 89 F7 00 07 86 00 00 0016291 00
200 00 201153160161F12022202A12A2475235245704357F5815822B0 85 F7 00 07 57 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 06565265365420201202153160162202912A12A24B04B5235246554F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 02B59559542200201201531601641F1220292A12A247F523525975985E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 09 7E
2B0 88 F7 01 07 79 00 00291 00
110 D20015160164201202222A12A24B04B1523524F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 00 692B0 88 F7 01 07 4A 00 00165291 00
200 00 201531601641F1202222A12A247F525242B0 86 F7 00 07 AB 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0B 7C
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 153161642022202A12A24B04B523524433 55C F55F5615675875884F2 00 4F02B0 86 F7 00 07 DC 00 00 00
16291 00
200 00
201531601641F1202222A12A247F523522B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D 7A
291 00
200 00
201 81 00 153161642022202A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
590 07 04 00 00 91 00 2C 7B
58F 00
2B0 88 F7165291 00
120 00 200201151601641F1202222A12A247F5175252455D55E5F0 00
2C0 3D 00 00 2B0 88 F7 00 07 0F 00 00 00
165 E291 00
200 00 201153160164202202A12A24B04B151523524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 05757A5704F2574F02B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 00165291 00
200 00 201531601641F1202222A12A247F5252457F4335815822B0 88 F7 01 07 F1 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 01 6565265365420201202153160162202912A12A24B04B5235246554F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 02B59559654220201202153161641F12202912A12A47F523524597595E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 03 74
2B0 88 F7 01 07 D3 00 00291 00
110 D200153160162012022202A12A24B04B5235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 0051A6902B0 86 F7 00 07 54 165291 00
050 00 200201151601641F1202222A12A247F523522B0 86 F7 00 07 45 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
291 00
018 28 00 01 720153160164201202202A12A24B04B15252443355C55F5615675875884F2 00
4F2B0 86 F7 00 07 76 00 00 00
AT CRA 4F0
.?

>AT MA
.4F2 00
4F0 00
AT CRA 581
...OK

>AT MA
524 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
5E4 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 0F 68
2B0 86 F7 00 07 EF 00 00 00
110 D0 2C 30 0D 00 00 00 00
200 00
201 01 00
202 02 00 00
153 00
160 00
164 00
220 02 04 14
291 00
2A1 00
2A2 04 00 00 00 00
4B0 00
4B1 00
523 8C 38 3A 3A 3B 3A 00 00
524 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
4F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 00 00 80 00
51A 00
690 03 00 11 10
2B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 00165050 00
200 00 201202291531601641F12202A2A247F5235242B0 86 F7 00 07 01 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 01 76
018 28 00 01 70 01202012021531601622029124F257B4F2B0 86 F7 00 07 76 00 00 16557F 80 00 C3 200201202153161641F12202912A2A247F523524435815822B0 86 F7 00 07 67 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 6565265365465200201202153161642202912A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 2B5955954259720020202291153160161F12202A12A247F525245985E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 09 7E
2B0 86 F7 00 07 89 00 00110 D0 2C 3020020120153160164220292A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 06902B0 86 F7 00 07 BA 00 0165291 00175232C05245555E5F0 002B0 86 F7 00 07 EF 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 0510 00
200 00
201202153161642202912A12A4B04B1523524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 57957A4F2574F02B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 00 16557F 80 00 C3 200201202911531601641F2202A12A247F525244335815822B0 86 F7 00 07 01 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 01 656526536565520020120153160164220292A12A24B04B1523524F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 02B5959654259720201202291153161641F12202A12A247F525245985E4 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 03 64
2B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00110 D0 2C 3020020120153160164220292A12A24B04B1523524F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 051A6902B0 88 F7 01 07 A4 00165050 00
200 00 20202291153160161F12202AF7 00 07 89 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7510 00
200 00
201 20153160164222912A12A24B04B152524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 057957A4F57B4F02B0 85 F7 00 07 8A 00 00 16557F 80 00 C3 20201202291153161641F12202A12A47F523524433585822B0 86 F7 00 07 AB 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0B 76565265365429200201202153161642202A12A24B04B523524655654F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 2B59559654259200201202291151601641F12202A12A47F523524595E4 00
165 EF F700
291 00
200 00201202153160164222A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 32 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 059058120 00 200201202911531601641F1222A12A247F517522C052455D55E5F0 02B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 0510 00
200 00
201202153160164222912A12A24B04B152524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 057957A4F57B4F02B0 86 F7 00 07 54 00 00 16557F 80 00 C3200201202291151601641F12202A2A247F523524435815822B0 88 F7 01 07 B5 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 6565265365465200201202153161642202912A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 2B5959654259720020202291153161641F12202A12A247F525245985E4 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 07 60
2B0 88 F7 01 002A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 DC 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 5905855D AE 99200202021531601641F2202912A12A247F2C52352455E2B0 85 F7 00 07 FD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D 7A510 00
200 00
201202151601642202912A12A4B04B1523524592 4007 32 00 0165291 00
200 00
201 202153161641F12202A12A2475235242B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 03 74
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 202151601642202A12A24B4B15235244355C F55F 561565875884F2 00 4F02B0 86 F7 00 07 54 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00
2012021531601641F2202A12A247F525245702B0 86 F7 00 07 45 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
291 00
200 00
201 81 202151601642202A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 76 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 59058120 00 200201202291151601641F12202A12A47F5172C05235255D55E5F0 02B0 88 F7 01 07 97 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 0510 00
200 00
201 20215316161 88 1F 00 00 51A6902B0 86 F7 00 07 DC 0016050 00
200 00
201202911531601641F1222A12A247F525242B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D 7A
018 28 00 01 70 0120020120291153160164222A12A24B04B15235243355C55F5615675875884F2 00 574F02B0 86 F7 00 07 FE 00 00 00165291 00
200 00
201202153161641F12202A12A247F525242B0 86 F7 00 07 EF 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0F 78
2912A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 2B5955954259720020202291153160161F12202A12A247F525245985E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
2B0 88 F7 01 07 B5 00 00 110 D0 2C 3020201202291153161642202A12A24B04B5235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 06902B0 86 F7 00 07 76 00 0165291 00
200 00
201 202151601641F12202A2A247F5235242B0 86 F7 00 07 67 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 70
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 07 10 00 165050 00
200 0201202291153161641F122001657F 80 0024570 00
2B0 86 531601641F2202A12A247F525244335815822B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D6565265365443355C55F5615675875884F2 004F02B0 86 F7 00 07 32 00 00 00
16291 00
200 00
201 C202164151601F12202A12A47F5235242B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 03 74
291 00
200 00
201 01 00202153160164222A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 54 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 59058034 00
2002012022911517 7F 00 00 00 09 7E
2B0 86 F7 00 07 89 00 00 0110 D0 2C 3200201202291151601642202A2A24B04B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 6902B0 86 F7 00 07 BA 00 0165291 00
200 00
201 2022A1153161641F12202A247F525245702B0 88 F7 01 07 5B 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 0B 6C
291 00
200 00
201 01 201531601642202A12A4B04B15235244355C F55F5615675875884F2 004F02B0 86 F7 00 07 DC 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00
201 2022A1151601641F12202A47F523524STOPPED

>AT CRA 200
.OK

>AT MA
.202 02 00 00
153 00
160 00
164 00
220 04 04 17 04 00
2A1 00
2A2 04 00 00 00 00
4B0 00
4B1 00
523 8C 38 3A 3A 3B 3A 00 00
524 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
4F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 00 00 80 00
51A 00
690 03 00 11 10
570 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 54 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 04 73
050 00
200 00
201 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 41
202 22 00 00 00 00 00 23 01 291151601641F12202A2A247F5235242B0 86 F7 00 07 45 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
018 28 00 01 70 0120201202291153161642202A12A24B04B52352443355C55F5615675875884F2 004F02B0 86 F7 00 07 76 00 00 00
16291 00
200 00
201 C202164151601F12202A12A47F5235242B0 86 F7 00 07 67 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 70
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 2022A1531601642202A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 98 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 5958F55D 8B 9200201202291531601641F1222A12A22C047F5252455E2B0 88 F7 01 07 79 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 09 7E510 00
200 00
201202291153160162202A12A24B04B152524STOPPED

>AT AR
..OK

>AT CRA 050
OK

>AT MA
2B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 00 77
291 00
200 00
201 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 41
202 22 00 00 00 00 00 23 01
2A1 00
153 00
160 00
164 00
1F1 00
220 08 04 16 04 00 00 C7 10 00
2A2 05 00 00 00 00 00
47F 00
523 8C 38 3A 3A 3B 3A 00 00
524 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 01 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 01 76
291 00
200 00
201 81 00 00 00 00 00 00 202A1153160164222A24B04B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 32 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 005958F120 00
200201202911531601641F2202A12A22C047F5152352455D55E5F02B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00510 00
200 00
201 202291151601642202A12A24B4B1523524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 057957A4F57B4F02B0 86 F7 00 07 54 00 0016557F 80 00 C3 20020202291164153161F12202A12A247523524433581582B0 86 F7 00 07 45 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 6516526565465520020202291153161642202A12A24B04B5235244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 2B595596542592002012022912A1531601641F1222A247F52352459570 00
5E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 70
2B0 86 F7 00 07 67110 D0 2C 3020201202291153161642202A12A24B04B5235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 051A692B0 86 F7 00 07 98 0165050 00
200 00 55E5A2 252B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
161153160164222A12A24B04B1523524F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 0690201202291531601641F1222A12A22C047F5175252455D55E5F02B0 86 F7 003524F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 202A47F523524595E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
2B0 88 F7 01594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF F7 7F 2B595965425975920020120 07 23 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 03 74
291 00
200 00
207 DC 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00
201 2022A1153160161F122002B59F525242B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 00 0D 6A
291 00
200 00
201 81 00 2022A1531601642202A4B04B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 FE 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00590 58120 00 202012022912A1153161641F12202A22C0475175235245555E5F02B0 86 F7 00 07 EF 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 510 00
200 00
201 202291151601642202A12A24B4B1523524592 40 EF 00 FF 20 005757A4F257B4F2B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 0016557F 80 00 C3200201202292A11531601641F1222A247F523524335705815822B0 86 F7 00 07 01 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 65652653654652002012022912A1531601642202A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 2B5959654259759820201202291151601641F12202A12A2475235245E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 03 74
2B0 86 F7 00 07 23 00 00 110 D0 2C 30200201202291531601642202A12A4B04B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 51A6902B0 86 F7 00 07 54 0016050 00
291 00
200202022A11531601641F2202A247F523522B0 86 F7 00 07 45 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 72
018 28 00 01 70 01200201202291531601642202A2A24B04B15235243355C 55F5615675875884F2 004F2B0 86 F7 00 07 76 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00
201 C2022A1151601641F12202A2475235242B0 88 F7 01 07 97 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 70
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 2022A1531601642202A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 98 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00590 58F034 00 20020202291153160161F12202A12A22C047F5252455D55E2B0 86 F7 00 07 89 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 09510 00
200 00
201202291531601642202A12A4B04B1523524570 00
579 FE 85 0C FE57A4F2574F05922B0 86 F7 00 07 BA 00 1657F 80 00 C32912002012022A1531601641F1222A247F523524435815822B0 86 F7 00 07 AB 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0B 76565265365465200201202291151601642202A12A24B4B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 002B5955954259759820201202291153161641F12202A12A2475235245E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D 7A
2B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 0110 D0 2C 3200201202291531601642202A12A4B04B15235244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 6902B0 86 F7 00 07 FE 00 0016291 00
200 00
201 C2022A1153161641F12202A2475235242B0 86 F7 00 07 EF 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0F 78
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 2022A1531601642202A24B4B152352443355C 55F5615675875884F2 004F02B0 86 F7 00 07 10 00 00 00
165291 00
200 00
201 2022A1153161641F12202A2475235242B0 86 F7 00 07 01 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 01 76
291 00
200 00
201 81 00 202A1153160164222A24B04B1523524F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 32 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 005958F120 0200201202292A11531601641F1222A22C047F5175235255D55E5F2B0 84 F7 01 07 13 00 00 00
165 EF F7 7F 00 00 0510 00
200 00
201 20291153160164222A12A24B04B152524570592 40 EF 00 FF 2057957A4F57B4F02B0 86 F7 00 07 54 00 0016557F 80 00 C358120201202291153161641F12202A12A247523433524582B0 87 F7 00 07 55 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 05 76516526565465520020202291153160162202A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
594 28 23 28 23 C4 5D 04 00
165 EF E7 7F 002B59559654259598200201202911531601641F1222A12A247F525245E4 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 07 70
2B0 88 F7 00 07 87 00 00 0110 D0 2C 3020020120291153160164222A12A24B04B1525244F2 00
4F0 00
4F1 88 1F 00 00 051A6902B0 86 F7 00 07 98 0165050 00
200 00
202022912A1153161641F12202A247F525242B0 86 F7 00 07 89 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 09 7E
018 28 00 01 70 01200201202291531601642202A2A24B04B15235244355C 55F561567587584F2 00 4F2B0 86 F7 00 07 BA 00 00 00
165 291 00
200 00
201 2022A1151601641F12202A2475235242B0 86 F7 00 07 AB 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0B 7C
291 00
200 00
201 01 00 2022A1151601642202A24B04B5235244F2 00
4F0 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 DC 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00590 05855D 56 20020202291153160161F12202A12A22C04752352455E570 00
2B0 86 F7 00 07 CD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00510 00
200 00
201 202291531601642202A2A24B04B152352592 40 EF 00 FF 20 00 5757A4F257B4F2B0 86 F7 00 07 FE 00 00 1657F 80 00 C3581200201202911531601641F1222A12A247F523435245822B0 86 F7 00 07 EF 00 00 00
AT SH 7DF
...OK

>AT CRA 7DE
.OK

>21 06
.2B0 85 F7 00 07 FD 00 00 00
165 EF E7 7F 00 00 00 0D 7A
651 00
652 00
653 00
654 0F 10 EB 0F 0F 74 78 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
655 3F 3C FF FF 00 00 00 BC
200 00
201 81 00 00 00 00 00 00 81
202 42 00 00 00 00 00 23 61
FFF 01 00

>AT RV
...14.5V

>AT SH 7DF
OK

>AT CRA 7EC
..OK

>21 01
AT SH 7DF
.OK

>AT CRA 7CD
OK

>21 01
 
Here is my log file. I am using ELM327 1.5 (according to the log file it is 1.5, not 2.1)
ELM327 v1.5

>AT I
AT I
ELM327 v1.5

>AT Z
AT Z


ELM327 v1.5

>AT E0
AT E0
OK

>AT L0
OK

>AT AR
OK

>AT AL
OK

>AT H1
OK

>AT D0
OK

>AT CAF1
OK

>AT ST 80
OK

>09 02
BUS INIT: ERROR

>AT RV
11.9V

>AT SH 7DF
OK

>AT CRA 7EC
OK

>21 01
BUS INIT: ERROR

>AT SH 7DF
OK

>AT CRA 7CD
OK

>21 01
BUS INIT: ERROR

>AT CRA 653
OK

Car was on and L1 charging
 
I am developing and using the SoulEvSpy app using a Konnwei KW-902 Bluetooth OBD-II dongle, stating it is an ELM327 v1.5 in response to AT I. There are lots of incompatible ELM327 clones on the market, the KW-902 is one of them! And I have heard there are different versions of that as well, some more buggy than others, on sale on the web.

I have tried another clone, and received log files from others using different clones, and I appreciate that. They all seem to behave differently.

Unfortunately I haven't got the time to make everything work on all of the different clones, each having different quirks and bugs.

If someone can point me to open source android code that supports multiple different OBD-II bluetooth dongles, I will see if I can incorporate some of the tricks in the SoulEvSpy app. Otherwise, the process of trial and error is simply too time-consuming to make them all work.
 
Your dongle seem to ignore the CRA command. It is supposed to filter the responses, so you shuldn't see the 7EA responses to the 21 01 command. Get a KW-902 instead.

teirhy said:
...

>AT CRA 7EC
OK

>21 01
7EC 10 3D 61 01 FF FF FF FF
7EA 10 0E 61 01 F0 00 00 00
7EC 21 5D 23 28 23 28 03 00
7EA 21 04 06 04 03 00 00 00
7EC 22 07 0D D7 0F 0E 0E 0E
7EA 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
7EC 23 0E 0E 0E 00 10 B8 2B
7EC 24 B8 3B 00 00 90 00 03
7EC 25 D7 BB 00 03 EF 15 00
7EC 26 01 68 31 00 01 66 2D
7EA 10 0E 61 01 F0 00 00 00
7EC 21 5D 23 28 23 28 03 00

...
 
Code:
[quote="langemand"]Did you forget to turn on the car before connecting in the app?[/quote]
Car was on and L1 charging.
 
bgarr33434 said:
Code:
[quote="langemand"]Did you forget to turn on the car before connecting in the app?[/quote]
Car was on and L1 charging.

The car has two different on states, you need to press the brake pedal while turning the car, for the app to work.

The symptoms may be caused by an issue with the dongle. Are you using a KW-902?
 
Different behavior now. Connecting...Disconnecting...Disconnected, repeat. Getting a new dongle.
 
bgarr33434 said:
Here is my log file. I am using ELM327 1.5 (according to the log file it is 1.5, not 2.1)
ELM327 v1.5

>AT I
AT I
ELM327 v1.5

...

>09 02
BUS INIT: ERROR
Car was on and L1 charging

This version could work better: http://spjeldager.dk/elbil/app-debug-1951.apk. It configures the CAN-bus protocol to 11-bit IDs, 500 kbaud. The previous versions of the app relied on the dongle to automatically search for the correct protocol.
If you try it, let me know if it worked.
 
I have released a new debug build of the Android SoulEVSpy app:
Edit: DEPRECATED DUE TO BUG! http://spjeldager.dk/elbil/SoulEVSpy-0.1.2-2586-debug.apk
PLEASE AWAIT THE NEXT VERSION!

It still only supports the original Konnwei KW-902 bluetooth OBD-II dongle. Note that the KW-902 is not an expensive item, it is one of the numerous ELM-327 clones.

Numerous changes in the app:
- SOH is calculated and displayed
- "Reconnect automatically" now (sort of) works
- In case of CAN communication errors, the communication is restarted
- Stability improvements in lots of places
- Page with the nearest Chademo FastChargers (currently only fast chargers in Denmark... sorry), with google maps routing when clicked
- The fast charger page and the "Energy" page keeps the phone screen on, when phone is fully charged or charging over USB
 
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