Oinq
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Re: Soul Spy?

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:34 pm

Updating while i'm writing this :D

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JeroenE
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Re: Soul Spy?

Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:20 am

On my commute home the app didn't freeze nor crash. It got disconnected quite some times though.

It looks like a good solution so far.

I did notice not all the fields were updated all the time. Particularly the remaining range field. It was stuck on 69 km for quite some time, when the car itself was displaying 60 km remaining.

langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm

JeroenE wrote:On my commute home the app didn't freeze nor crash. It got disconnected quite some times though.

It looks like a good solution so far.

I did notice not all the fields were updated all the time. Particularly the remaining range field. It was stuck on 69 km for quite some time, when the car itself was displaying 60 km remaining.

I have looked in the logfiles you emailed. The disconnects are due to CAN ERRORs. This happens when there is a problem in the communication between the car and the dongle. When there are communication issues, some data are not communicated to the app.

One thing I noticed in the logs is that the dongle measure the aux voltage as below 10 Volts, while the LDC and BMS reports the aux voltage to be above 14 Volts. I have only seen such low voltages when the car was off, and the aux battery almost completely drained, which is not the case in your car.

I will recommend replacing your dongle. You could try to borrow another dongle first, just to see if the communication issues are originating from the car, rather than the dongle.
Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

gday
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Re: Soul Spy?

Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:17 pm

My apologies for posting my questions here but I am not sure where else to post with "beginner" questions.

I have just got a Konnwei KW902 BT 3.0 and currently have SoulEVspy Ver 0.1.1-4527 loaded on a Samsung S7 Edge.

I note that the KW902 mentioned talks about Ver 1.5 but does that mean BT 1.5? If so I may have the wrong 902.

I also note that there seem to be two two apps with similar names but I cannot find one simply called Soulspy? If I am right how do I get Soulspy?

My phone connects to my 2020 Kia Soul EV 64kWh - will that cause a conflict re. Bluetooth?

Is there some place where I can find instructions for the initial set up?

notfred
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Re: Soul Spy?

Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 pm

To install, go into the Google play store and look for "Soul EV Spy" by EVRanger.com

It doesn't matter that your phone connects to your car by Bluetooth for calls and such, it can also be connected to the dongle. First of all plug in the dongle and then go to your phone Bluetooth settings and get them paired. Then open the Soul EV Spy app, select the Bluetooth dongle in the settings and then connect by sliding the slider in the app.

Oinq
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Re: Soul Spy?

Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:36 pm

langemand wrote:Would you buy the Soul EV Spy android app, if it was priced at $15 at google play store?

Is it worth it?

Why or why not?

What is the value of the app, if not $15?

What are the currently existing need-to-have features of the app?

What features are wanted, but missing from the app currently?

What are the pain points of the app (i.e. what sucks)?

Thanks in advance for your reply. The current "early available" BETA release that is currently available on google play store, will soon be upgraded to a paid app.



Coming back to this, sorry my time has been short lately.

To be honest I would pay more than 15€ to know my SOH, but that can be done with Torque for free.
5€ for this app I would pay without a blink, 10€ it would be ok, 15€ is stretching a bit. In the past I asked you a paypal account to donate some money to help you keep the project alive. In the time my idea was send 5€ and if the app would improve I would send again 5€ every time I would see usefully (for me of course) improvements. We have seen many improvements lately and to be honest I can't even imagine the hours you are into this project. In this moment I would have gladly paid 10€.

What can be improved in a user perspective? The layout.
When I had the Peugeot iOn the app I used in the time was the "caniOn". This app has a great feature in the settings, It has a check list with all the parameters you can read from the car, and if you check them, they will show up, if you don't check them you won't see them. For me this worth other 5€.

The fact that you are opening the app for more vehicles will worth more, and open your revenue possibilities. I also have an Kia Optima PHEV and if the app could read both cars, at least the most important parameters, I would gladly pay again 5 or even 10€.

Have you thought in let's say modules? Basic module with the most basic features like 2 or 3€. And then 2 or 3 € per module. I have this on an astronomy app and it got me pay all the modules in different times, but I have the full app now. People has a blockage on their brain on spending money, and if you spend it slowly you won't notice it. Can also help you by the download number of each mode, know the modules people want the most, and consequently you can focus your efforts on what people wants most (or where you can earn the most).


On my side, inside my possibilities, you will always have my support. Keep up the good work, you are doing it very good. A BIG thank you.

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gday
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Re: Soul Spy?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:21 am

Thanks notfred. I made sure I had the right app and I plugged in OBD2 device - turned it on(it has a button) Then turned car on fully, turned on app and activated BT - it connected and so I checked each screen and very few had anything. So I drove around and checked again. Nothing really showing - aux battery did show. It apparently could not identify the VIN.

So I searched my phone for a data file and found a TXT file and CSV log but cannot find a way to attach - it seems a bit long to simply copy and paste. Here is just the ending:
>o:AT SH 7DF
o: o:AT SH 7DF
Status='Broken pipe'
TimeOuts=2
Disconnected by ReadLoop. Timeouts ='373', status='Broken pipe'

I did note that I have ver 1.5 so one issue solved!

Thoughts please.

langemand
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Re: Soul Spy?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:39 am

gday wrote:Thanks notfred. I made sure I had the right app and I plugged in OBD2 device - turned it on(it has a button) Then turned car on fully, turned on app and activated BT - it connected and so I checked each screen and very few had anything. So I drove around and checked again. Nothing really showing - aux battery did show. It apparently could not identify the VIN.

So I searched my phone for a data file and found a TXT file and CSV log but cannot find a way to attach - it seems a bit long to simply copy and paste. Here is just the ending:
>o:AT SH 7DF
o: o:AT SH 7DF
Status='Broken pipe'
TimeOuts=2
Disconnected by ReadLoop. Timeouts ='373', status='Broken pipe'

I did note that I have ver 1.5 so one issue solved!

Thoughts please.

You startup sequence should work.
Aux battery voltage is read by the dongle, not reported by the car.

Which app version are you running (it is at the bottom of the Settings, and at the head of the soulspy.log-files)?
Which car model and year do you have?
Did you select your car model in Settings?
Do you have other apps accessing the dongle (Torque...)?

Will you tell me the first part of your VIN (excluding the serial number, if you prefer)? I cannot know what the app is supposed to process otherwise...

I am unable to assist without log files. Email them to me if you want me to help, and possibly fix the app, if the app is the cause of the problem: soulspy@evranger.com
Improving Soul EV Spy app. Errors: Send me the soulspy.log*.txt-files
Kia e-Soul: 2019-
History:
Kia Soul EV 2015-2019: http://soul.spjeldager.dk/
Nissan Evalia 2015: http://evalia.spjeldager.dk/
Peugeot 106 Electric 2010-2015: http://elbil.spjeldager.dk/

JeroenE
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Re: Soul Spy?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:48 am

I have a bad dongle that does the same and gives the same error in Soul Spy. It's a small blue translucent dongle, and on the forum you can find other people where it doesn't work.

I think you probably need another one. Can you try the ELM327 identifier app? The one I have doesn't even have all the commands for the first version. Probably just enough to spit out it's V1.5 :(

gday
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Re: Soul Spy?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:13 am

Which app version are you running (it is at the bottom of the Settings, and at the head of the soulspy.log-files)?

0.1.1-4527
Which car model and year do you have?

Kia Soul EV 2020 64kWh
Did you select your car model in Settings?

OOOPS - done and it works!! LOTS more data. Thank you for sorting me out!
Do you have other apps accessing the dongle (Torque...)?

Tried Torque but did not go far.
Will you tell me the first part of your VIN (excluding the serial number, if you prefer)? I cannot know what the app is supposed to process otherwise...

KNDJ33 - enough?
I am unable to assist without log files. Email them to me if you want me to help, and possibly fix the app, if the app is the cause of the problem: soulspy@evranger.com

Will send it next

Thanks againlangemand - your work is very much appreciated.

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