maxcalvada
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Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:29 am

The "charge" light on my charger went off(only the power light stays on). The 3 blue lights on the dashboard have now gone out.

This means I have a full charge?

If so, my full charge range is 78 miles. The estimated range for a new 2017 Soul is 93 miles. I understand there is a yearly degradation of the battery. Would 78 miles then be about right for a 4 year old EV?

IanL
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:08 am

It depends where you are - how warm/cold it is. The GOM value will reflect ambient temperatures. Also, the battery will not charge quite as well in cold temperatures. You can get a better idea by looking at the energy information in the display EV mode. You can see the range with and without heating. The without heating is probably the figure to compare with the figure you quoted. My car usually shows between 8 and 10 miles more without heating. If you add 8 to 78, 86 miles doesn't seem too bad.

However, the estimate will vary, depending on the pattern of driving your particular car that the BMS has in memory, so this is not a precise science. The best assessment of the battery condition is the SOH, about which much has been written on this board.

maxcalvada
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:57 am

Yes, very cold here right now. Thanks for your help :D

Douzeper
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:28 am

I just purchased a 2016, I'm getting 76 mile range, pretty disappointed with that.

I'm wondering, charging it with 13amp household plug, is that ok to use all the time?

notfred
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:00 am

It helps to say where you are. From "13amp household plug" that sounds like you are in the UK, so that would be 240V and mild temperatures.

That range does sound a bit low for a UK Soul EV. Is this just the reported range or is this the actual range if you try driving close to that distance? I've seen the predicted range by wrong by a lot.

If you have an Android phone it's worth getting a Bluetooth dongle, the recommeded one is from Konnwei http://www.konnwei.com/product/423.html and note that others that look similar may not work. You can then use the Soul Spy app on the Android phone to read out the battery state of health.

IanL
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:23 am

It is fine to charge all the time from the 13A supply. The downside is that it takes longer, but if you can put up with that, the battery life will be extended, as it prefers a slower charge. I wanted a higher rate of charge, so I fitted a 40A supply and a 32A charger in the garage. However, unless I am really in a hurry, I use the 16A setting anyway.

I agree with Notfred that the 76 mile range does sound a bit low. The cars with 27kWh batteries have an older battery technology, which seems to deteriorate faster than the 30kWh models. My 30kWh model shows 120 in winter and 150 in summer, with a fairly gentle driving pattern. The values are estimates which will vary depending on the pattern of previous usage and ambient temperature.

It could be that your battery is near the 70% SOH mark, below which KIA will replace it. They won't accept the value from the SOUL EV app, but it would give you an idea whether to go to a KIA dealer to ask for a warranty replacement.

Douzeper
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 am

notfred wrote:It helps to say where you are. From "13amp household plug" that sounds like you are in the UK, so that would be 240V and mild temperatures.

That range does sound a bit low for a UK Soul EV. Is this just the reported range or is this the actual range if you try driving close to that distance? I've seen the predicted range by wrong by a lot.

If you have an Android phone it's worth getting a Bluetooth dongle, the recommeded one is from Konnwei http://www.konnwei.com/product/423.html and note that others that look similar may not work. You can then use the Soul Spy app on the Android phone to read out the battery state of health.


Hi, Yes UK, thanks for the link. it's the actual range, it drops quite fast.

Douzeper
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:59 am

IanL wrote:It is fine to charge all the time from the 13A supply. The downside is that it takes longer, but if you can put up with that, the battery life will be extended, as it prefers a slower charge. I wanted a higher rate of charge, so I fitted a 40A supply and a 32A charger in the garage. However, unless I am really in a hurry, I use the 16A setting anyway.

I agree with Notfred that the 76 mile range does sound a bit low. The cars with 27kWh batteries have an older battery technology, which seems to deteriorate faster than the 30kWh models. My 30kWh model shows 120 in winter and 150 in summer, with a fairly gentle driving pattern. The values are estimates which will vary depending on the pattern of previous usage and ambient temperature.

It could be that your battery is near the 70% SOH mark, below which KIA will replace it. They won't accept the value from the SOUL EV app, but it would give you an idea whether to go to a KIA dealer to ask for a warranty replacement.



Thanks, Ive ordered the Konwei to find out. Good to know I'm doing no harm with the 13amp (UK) charge all the time, it's plenty fast enough for what I need it for, quick short trips several times a day and put it on charge in between.

Hope this is the right one: https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32842035390.html

JejuSoul
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:15 pm

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I recommend the Konnwei KW902. I have had two of these for 5 years now. They work.
I have no idea about the Konnwei KW910. If it works please add it to the thread here.
recommended obd2 adapter

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The codes for using Torque Pro can be found by clicking the link in the website icon under my user name on the left.

GreatWhiteNorth
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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Sat May 08, 2021 9:25 am

JejuSoul wrote:-
I recommend the Konnwei KW902. I have had two of these for 5 years now. They work.
I have no idea about the Konnwei KW910. If it works please add it to the thread here.
recommended obd2 adapter

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Hello,
I have ordered a Konnwei KW902 direct from the company in China. However like a dumb ass I purchased a wifi instead of Bluetooth. Will this adaptor work with Soul Spy?

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