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Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:41 pm
by IanL
GreatWhiteNorth wrote:... I purchased a wifi instead of Bluetooth. Will this adaptor work with Soul Spy?


Soul Spy only supports Bluetooth.

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:44 pm
by RX8
I purchased a certified 2017 Soul EV with 7,700 miles in January. In Colorado, winter range was about 93 and charging last night I had 117 miles, which exceeded my expectations. I am relatively new to the Soul EV so I have no comparisons but I seem to always gain mileage on the range as I drive. On my last full charge (117 expected range), after driving about 70 miles my remaining calculated range amounted to about 122 total range. Do others have this same experience?

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:15 pm
by IanL
One possible explanation is that the GOM estimate is based on previously achieved mileages, which will be low if they are generated in colder weather. Now that it is warmer, they will be improved, but the GOM algorithm may still retain some bias from the winter memory, which will slowly be overcome as the older values fall out of the stack. Come the winter, you should see a slow reduction of GOM value, as the summer values drop out, and you may actually experience worse performance than the GOM predicts. The effect would be more marked if the change of seasonal temperature is more abrupt.

A possible reason that I haven't noticed it happening is that the seasonal temperature variation here is MUCH less than in Colorado. Well, it's a theory :D

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:48 am
by EVDee
They should have reset your BMS after they installed the new battery but either didn't because following instructions is hard :roll: , or because they ran out of time - as was the excuse from my dealer when they changed my battery out. It'll update once you've discharged and charged the battery in a certain way (100% to >18% back to 100% without interruption) and it recalibrates with the new data provided from the battery.

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:45 pm
by Dory2
I also have a 2017. I live in Phoenix and left for a month and came back to a range of 58 miles on a full charge. The dealership tested the SOH at 86%. With the AC on (a MUST here) and going on the freeway, I'll be lucky if I can drive 25 miles before needing to charge for another 14 hours. If this is how it's going to be, I'll have to get rid of the car. I bought it 9 months ago, so this was my first summer. Any advice?

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:48 pm
by JejuSoul
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A 2017 Soul EV doesn't last long in Phoenix.
Here's a previous post from June 2018 :- Re: Arizona SOUL EV Heat testing

JejuSoul wrote:-
Good luck with your new car. This thread suggests the battery will need replacing within a few years.
As long as your commute is possible with a 70% degraded battery, then you will be fine for the years that the warranty lasts.
Kia will replace the battery with a new one each time you get down to 70%

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:40 pm
by gogogut
Dory2 wrote:I also have a 2017. I live in Phoenix and left for a month and came back to a range of 58 miles on a full charge. The dealership tested the SOH at 86%. With the AC on (a MUST here) and going on the freeway, I'll be lucky if I can drive 25 miles before needing to charge for another 14 hours. If this is how it's going to be, I'll have to get rid of the car. I bought it 9 months ago, so this was my first summer. Any advice?

Would love to hear more about your situation. I am considering buying a used 2017 in Tucson but am afraid of the battery issues, especially since buying from a non-Kia dealership who knows nothing about the car. Less than 20k miles and still under warranty, so wondering if it is worth the risk.

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:06 pm
by SoulMan
EVs have better range in warm/hot conditions vs. winter.

No so much due to accessory use... When outside temperature falls near or below freezing, heaters come on to keep the batteries warm - and the batteries just don't work as well. Range can drop up to 50%.

Charged up my 64kW Soul today and it's 60F (15C) - battery shows 308 mi. range (496km). Around 40F (5C) it would show about 25% less.

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:05 pm
by hjonson
"76 sounds low..." - lucky you! Bought my 2017 Kia+ in April 2021, with 47Km on it, it's full range was 68 miles.
Don't misunderstand, I knew what I was buying, a 2nd car to run around town, and wanted the "EV experience" at a reasonable price.
I'm retired, live in SoCal, with no commute, and a typical daily outing is 20m, with 40m max, so I'm totally good with it.
LOVE the car, how it drives, leather seats, sound system, ...

But now on 9/1, at just about 1K miles later, it's down to 57m at 100% charge, via home charger 95% of the time (55m w/ AC on).
'Spy says SOH is 71.5%. Can that be right, since 57/93 => 61% ?
I do "top off" daily, since usually < 35m left on a typical day end, to ensure next days usage is covered.
Did that practice exacerbate the capacity loss?
At this point guess I should keep it up, to get under 70% as quick as possible, then "request" my new battery from the dealer.

Re: Range for Fully Charged(?) 2017 Soul

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:04 pm
by MassDeduction
hjonson wrote:"76 sounds low..." - lucky you! Bought my 2017 Kia+ in April 2021, with 47Km on it, it's full range was 68 miles.[...]

47Km or 47k km? If 47Km, then that's... not a lot of mileage!