JejuSoul
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Re: Analysis of a replacement battery.

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It is now 2 1/2 years since I had the battery replaced on my white 27kWh 2015 Soul EV.
On December 30th 2019 the car had driven 86,993km before getting a new battery.
On June 18th 2022 the odometer reads 126,379km. That's 39,386km on the new battery.

Here's the latest Torque reading

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The new BMS does not show the same deterioration data as the original.
At the last service two weeks ago the SOH was 100% 'as expected'.
Although perhaps I shouldn't be so optimistic - see below for discussion on my original car.

Here's the navi display when last charged to 100% SOC.

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Although after 39,000km my blue 27kWh 2015 Soul EV was just beginning to lose the 'early year's buffer' and occasionally show a reading lower than 100% at this stage. The new algorithm for the BMS offers no way to determine the buffer size.
If the 'early year's buffer' is 10% of the battery's capacity and the warranty is 70% of useable capacity,
then the 160,000km warranty limit will be reached at 40% loss of real capacity.
Hence if the deterioration loss is linear the battery will lose 10% each 40,000km.
That is what happened on my blue car and may be what is happening with the new battery.

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Both of my cars are 7 years old. Both went in for annual service recently, and both had their transmission oil changed.

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The blue car has driven about 94,000km and still has the original battery. The official KIA estimate of SOH is 94.9%.
I will make a report about this car on the Battery Ageing Model thread.
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The codes for using Torque Pro can be found by clicking the link in the website icon under my user name on the left.
ksoul2084
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Re: Analysis of a replacement battery.

That is simply amazing to me.

I had my battery replaced almost two years ago and my range is rarely much more than 100km on a full charge (2016).
Granted, I'm often driving on the highway at 115km/h, but I've never enjoyed the so called 150km+ range that others have frequently mentioned.
JejuSoul
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Re: Analysis of a replacement battery.

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Here's the latest charging profile of my replacement battery.
I don't charge to 100% very often.
Compare this with Previous charging profile.

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This is a 28.8A charge from 19.5% SOC to 100% SOC.
It took 4 hours 13 minutes to fully charge.

Note the energy added is equivalent to a useable battery capacity of 30.09kWh.
The final resting voltage at 100% SOC is 397.2V

There's a small vertical jump in the SOC line at the end. I think this jump in SOC is purely because I don't charge to 100% very often and the BMS doesn't know exactly where 100% will be.
The codes for using Torque Pro can be found by clicking the link in the website icon under my user name on the left.
JejuSoul
Posts: 1687
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:47 am
Location: Jeju
Contact: Website

Re: Analysis of a replacement battery.

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Here's another TeslaBjorn video
It's a follow up to the previous video about this car mentioned here :- They Don't Age Well!

The analysis is full of mistakes but it's worth watching anyway.
The 27kWh version with 96 cells does not get upgraded to a 100 cell pack, hence it is not the same pack as the 30kWh version.
His method of measuring the pack capacity using the displayed energy consumption does not work.
The displayed energy consumption does not work the same way after a battery upgrade as it did before.

https://youtu.be/mg0SQ4EdKp4
The codes for using Torque Pro can be found by clicking the link in the website icon under my user name on the left.

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