Neel
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:48 pm

sorry for delay update,
i got one last sunday , and busy with removing texi stuff and making family car again , ... almost done , now reach at paint touch up for roof,
its not originally Green its metalic , that vinal peel is removed by seller , so i got metalic light blue OR Metalic turquoise kind
anyone know where to get almost matching touch up paint ?
i am in toronto , so update within area , thanks

FueledUpRooster
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:57 am

Neel wrote:
FueledUpRooster wrote:Hey Everyone, crazy this forum is getting so big.

I just brought one of these cars into KIA (the dealer who sold me the car said the battery was newer, which it wasn't, just the charging system.)

Kia is replacing the battery with a brand new one, I brought it last week, left it there for 3 days, they just got back saying its getting a brand new (not refurbed) battery. takes a month to come in and apparently the whole job is over 20 000$, but covered by KIA of Canada.

If anyone wants updates on how this goes or is interested in the story or wants me to post updates I can.


Brief history, bought the car May 31, showed range of 122 km, drove home, charged only showed 107, now i get a max of 86km at 100%, i only charge between 20-80, but clearly the battery system was reset before selling the car to me.

After driving and using Soul EV Spy, SOH was at about 62%.

I drove to the closest EV dealer (87 km, i made it believe it or not on 1 charge) They handled it without issue, they said they already replaced the batteries in 2 other of these taxis.

I went to Lockwood Kia in Oakville, so far amazing staff.

Thank you for sharing info. this is really helpful , i already purchased one , it will come on sunday , its 113K driven , when i got test drive GOM showing 63% charged with 60KM range , but after finish 10+KM test drive with B mode , GOM shows 56% with 56KM range , still no idea what actual SOH left , but will find out more after sunday ,

** btw your car , did dealer repainted roof or fix roof hole and touchup ?? if you don't mind to share more info. please



Hi Neel,

I bought my car from a small Toronto Dealer, no touchups. I still have my taxi roof signs, I removed all the electrical myself and found the keyfob spare under the console.

Update on battery replacement:

It's on backorder, which I expected 100% with what I have read before, needless to say I still drive the car everyday.

They give you an option at the beginning, leave the vehicle with them or take it back until the battery comes in. So if you decide to leave the vehicle there I think it's your own fault when you become upset it's been over a month.

KIA has offered to tow the car to them when the battery comes in, and has also stated if the range doesn't meet my needs they will rent me a car at their expense. I don't want to pay for gas so I am keeping my car until the battery comes in.

Will update again when I hear about replacement date, I believe I went there September 25th and had 0 hassle with the dealer.

Neel
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:26 am

Thank you for update !!
i got 3 days ago my KW902 , and tested my SOH right after 23 km drive with speed 65-80 KM/H , 2 degree temp outside, with climate control on 23.5 degree, after 23 KM drive i stop charge left was 65% and GOM was 61KM with my KW902 with soul spy SOH was 95.6%
the car already has 113K and now 117K , i am not sure is this SOH is correct OR am i doing something wrong ? should i measure SOH when 100% charge or less than 20% charge left ? thank you in advance

FueledUpRooster
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:59 am

Alright after my last post on Nov 20, KIA called me literally about 30 minutes after I posted, the battery came in! I dropped it off on November 25 and got it back a few days later, battery showed 150km at 100%, I drove 170km on that charge, so pretty happy so far, the range has been going up after every charge now as it calibrates. I charge to 80% and am getting about 140km a charge on it, so lasting me about 3 days.

So pretty happy so far! 0 hassle, didn't cost me a dime in the end for ANYTHING.

Lockwood was so good to me, bought another car from them.

Could not have asked for a better service.


After I got the car back I decided to take the taxi brackets off, as one was letting water through where the wire was protruding. You have to take the back seat out, then all the side panelling and pillers to remove the roof liner. After that you can see the bolts for the bracket, I was lucky all of them came off with my impact gun except 1 which I drilled it out from above, took a couple minutes.

They are a pain in the a** to take off the roof though, the adhesive is very tough, I used some braided fishing line to cut into about half of the adhesive and was able to pop it off with a lot of force. I hammered some of the denting out after, looks decent. Vinyl was underneath so adhesive wasn't a problem to clean off either.

I used some Hammond Electrical box plugs from the electrical store, they are a metal painted cap with a gasket underneath that are water and oil resistant, they have a washer and wingnut for the underside. I used 9 total 5 of them were 3/4" cover 4 were 1" cover.

All in all, pretty happy with this car, got it for 12500, kia dumped way more money into it, and now it's like new with a lot of range.


One tip I would give anyone getting these, do NOT chimp out on the brakes, do not get aftermarket brakes, they do not meet the tolerance requirements to slide properly and can do more damage than good, especially with the regen braking and lack of use.

NRS Brakes in Toronto makes OEM Galvanized dipped steel pads which are corrosion resistant and are made with proper clearance specs for the slider within i believe 0.01mm tolerance. You will not regret a proper pair of pads, they will last years longer than the aftermarket (1-2 years maybe). A set of pads for the whole car is going to run you about $380 with tax, but they are proper, and with the minimal maintenance this car requires you will not regret spending the small amount extra. Save you the mileage later when the aftermarkets begin sticking to the sliders and causing some small amount of friction.


FueledUpRooster
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:12 am

Neel wrote:Thank you for update !!
i got 3 days ago my KW902 , and tested my SOH right after 23 km drive with speed 65-80 KM/H , 2 degree temp outside, with climate control on 23.5 degree, after 23 KM drive i stop charge left was 65% and GOM was 61KM with my KW902 with soul spy SOH was 95.6%
the car already has 113K and now 117K , i am not sure is this SOH is correct OR am i doing something wrong ? should i measure SOH when 100% charge or less than 20% charge left ? thank you in advance


My car had the same issue with the battery, the SOH will eventually show the true state, the BMS was probably reset. mine was at 75-80 and after 4 months settled at 60% SOH which was the true state of the battery, which is why I claimed the warranty. My Soul has 144000km

Pearson
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:16 pm

I bought my 2016 Kia Soul EV about a month ago. It is one of these former Teo taxis, and has 130,000 km on it.

At first, the GOM would predict 145 km on a full charge, but that number would go down every day. Now, a month later, it only shows 113 km on a full charge. I took it to a KIA dealer today and they said the SOH was 89%.

Do these numbers make sense?

I drive it mainly on city streets, with only some highway. I charge it to 100% every night in the garage on a L1 charge.

notfred
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:51 am

That sounds about right, particularly with it now being winter temperatures.

Neel
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:13 pm

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exzetly , all this work i did by my self , removed maximum wires by my self ,
regarding battery , i got my car octomber as per today i drove 4000KM , i purchased on 113K
i charge randomly will all kind of charger home with i got GOM all diffrent value but now winter already started so its range is droped
here is my data -
L1 charger - GOM 128KM
L2 220v / 30 AMP - GOM- 138KM
than i install L2 at home 220v/16amp - 125KM
in between i charge with L1 charger few time too with assuming that BMS will reset properly
i charge everyday 100 % and as winter started (0 to -3 C. )in closed garage - i am getting GOM - 113-118KM
by all above i got my KW902 and i tested my SOH - its pops 96.6%
morning 100% charge GOM -113KM - tested with soul spy and kw902 * SOH 96.6%
driving whole day in 0 to -6 C temp. GOM 60KM - i tested show - SOH 96.5%
few times is tested SOH when GOM only left 15KM - and tested SOH - 96.8%

all above data is about 45 days - with mixed charger - colder weather - few times i drove 125KM on highway before charge
i am bit suspisious or not sure , i never got GOM 140KM or above (when temp 25 around before winter) ,
now i am getting GOM 108KM with L2/220v /16 amp

question is in mind present SOH is 96.6 % is this SOH possible correct ?? or still BMS will reset ??

ksoul2084
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Re: Thinking of getting a higher mileage 2016

Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:26 am

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Nice work! Looks very clean.

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