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Hmmm... I think that if you look at the terms of the warranty, a rental/loaner is in there. Not sure how you'd deal with that after the fact, but I think they owe you money. (When I pointed out the loaner clause, they didn't try to get out of it, and I was able to push them to find an EV so I...

You're right, had a thinko there and mixed up my acronyms.

No, I've never had Kia look at it. It isn't a scary noise, (yet) so I'll wait until I'm taking it in for another reason, such as a recall.

The BMS was bad, very likely due to a crack in the housing that was common for this year. Bizarrely, they tried replacing the battery pack first, even though I'd guess that was a much more expensive starting point if you're doing whack-a-mole component replacement instead of diagnosis.

I'm curious about the frame & suspension work you refer to. My 2016 makes a low-pitched squeak/groan going over bumps. I looked to see if there were any grease points on the suspension & found none, so I now suspect that I may have worn out a rubber part somewhere. What was the reason you did...

Kia had my 2016 for a year during the pandemic while they messed around with charging system diagnosis and sourcing parts. During that entire time, they providing a Niro EV rental for me. (The Niro is a great car, BTW, was sad we we had to give it back.) I put 14K miles on their rental and Kia...

My local dealer had my 2016 for over a year during the mid to late pandemic because they had problems diagnosing and then sourcing parts for what was clearly an electric problem. However, Kia paid for a Niro EV rental during the entire time, so I'm not complaining. (We loved the Niro!) The only...

OK, just got an update from the dealership... Replacing the 12V battery didn't solve the problem. Because I had the problem *before* the firmware was updated, I can't guarantee that this couldn't be a source of problems for anyone with current firmware. I've had the car since 2018, and didn't...

Thanks for that additional info, especially the note about the firmware update! That may explain why people have not run into this frequently in the past. I'll definitely report back on how this plays out so we have a searchable topic in the forum for those who run into this in the future...

I've got a 2016 with about 50K miles. It suddenly stopped charging. When I plug in the charger, the blue dashboard lights flash for a few minutes & then go off. I had it towed to the dealer and their diagnosis is that the 12V battery needs replacing. That's reasonably inexpensive, and at 5...