goev
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:43 pm

I'm already in contact with Langemand :)

I managed to wake up the things by activating either IGN1, IGN2, ACC Relay or Start Relay(?). The BCM and SJB started to answer my requests, however with a negative response. I was in a hurry, so that's all I found out.

I don't have much hope in hacking the navi either, but it will be exciting to find out what we can do on the m-can. I don't have access to a car with UVO, so I have to look into what's happening when the heater is turned on by the timer.

Anyone here with UVO and a proper CAN-scanner?

Javi
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:29 am

hi
I do not have the module v3, but several users of Spain are eager to mount it.
If you need help to test, count on my future v3 module :D

goev
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:28 am

That is great, Javi :D

Usikker
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:18 am

Hei.... I'm in Norway, not fare from Drammen... Anything I can help you with ?
I have the 2018 and a OBD connection to my car..
Kia Soul EV 2018, 30kWh :shock:

goev
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:01 am

Usikker wrote:Hei.... I'm in Norway, not fare from Drammen... Anything I can help you with ?
I have the 2018 and a OBD connection to my car..


Hi Usikker,

Maybe you could have a look at the M-can? The M-can is on pin 1(High) and 9(low), while the C-can is on pin 6(high) and 14(low).
I would really like to know what we can find on that bus. Like which messages are sent when the timer turns on the heater, what is the inside temperature. Can we find the temperature-setting, timer-settings, anything that might be useful?

I'm waiting for some new cables, so I can't access the M-can before those cables arrives.

I would also really like to test the OVMS V3 on a 30kWh Soul, but Drammen is a bit too far away just for testing :)

Best regards,
Geir

Usikker
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:02 am

I can buy another obd dongle and modify it, any special you will recommend reading m-can ?

I have this one today and it seems to work ok with Torque
https://alexnld.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... W902-3.jpg

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Kia Soul EV 2018, 30kWh :shock:

goev
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:06 pm

Any dongle should do. Or you could make a cable so you can access both with one cable. Not at the same time, of course :)

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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:40 pm

goev wrote:Any dongle should do. ... :)

Are you sure? I also have a Konnwei KW902 dongle. I don't think it is fast enough to read the M-CAN. I think that line is 1 Mb/s.
I hope I'm wrong on that though. Here's the layout of our OBD connector from KiaTechInfo.com.

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The codes for using Torque Pro can be found by clicking the link in the website icon under my user name on the left.

goev
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:32 pm

I’m pretty sure that the m-bus is 100kbit/s. There’s no reason it should be twice the speed of the c-can.
AIKI wrote about the m-can early in the SoulSpy thread.

goev
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Re: OVMS for the Kia Soul EV (to remotely access it without UVO)

Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:04 am

I can confirm that the M-bus is 100kbit. I've run quite a few traces and have updated Tyrell's google spreadsheet with my latest findings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

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