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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:33 pm

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The N iro EV went on sale yesterday in Korea. Even though the car is not going to be released until July.
Supposedly the whole year's supply (5000 cars) was sold out in a couple of hours. Probably not true because I just ordered one and the dealer said it is still possible. Mine is 5127.

Details in Korean are here - 클릭! 이 차]니로 EV, 1회 충전으로 380㎞ 달린다 and 니로EV' 이틀만에 5,000대 예약

Interesting to see the comparison with the two versions of the N iro EV against the K ona EV

N iro EV LE 64kWh - 380km but K ona EV 64kWh - 490km
N iro EV ME 39.2kWh - 240km but K ona EV 39.2kWh - 300km

The K ona details are from here - https://www.hyundai.news/eu/feature/all ... -electric/

Those numbers for the K ona EV are not realistic. They are claimed to be WLTP. I have now seen the Korean range numbers for the 64kWh K ona.
They are 390km at 20C and 273 at -7C. Korean range numbers for the 64kWh N iro. are 380km at 20C and 270 at -7C.
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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:16 am

That's the first time I've seen official range numbers quoting different temperatures. It also matches with what I see on the Soul EV - the official numbers show a drop to 70% and for a quoted range of 150km for the SoulEV that gives a winter range of 105km, which matches my GOM through the winter.

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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:11 pm

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The Korean government range tests all EVs at both room temp and -7C. Getting a full government subsidy requires the car to pass the cold weather test with at least 70% of the normal range.

The figures are here -

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For the 2018 Soul EV the ranges are 180km at 20C and 154.2 at -7C.

I wrote about the testing here - [Solved] Dynamometer ... FAIL !

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And here's a video about the new K ona EV -

https://youtu.be/mJjq8w_7N4Q

The 8 inch navi screen in the Kona looks to small. I think they have left room for a bigger display to go in later. I hope this gets fixed by the time they release this car in April.

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A quick comparison of the sizes.

Hyundai K ona Electric

Length: 4.180 mm
Width: 1.800 mm
Height: 1.555 mm
Wheelbase: 2.600 mm

Chevrolet B olt EV

Length: 4.170 mm
Width: 1.770 mm
Height: 1.600 mm
Wheelbase: 2.600 mm

Kia N iro EV

Length: 4.375 mm
Width: 1.805 mm
Height: 1.560 mm
Wheelbase: 2.700 mm
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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:46 am

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The Kona EV has now been released in Korea.
Here's a photo of the price sheet.
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Some details -
The standard car is the 64kWh version. It comes in two trims Modern and Premium.
To get the 39.2kWh version you tick the 'Light Package' option.
The 'Winter Package' is an extra that gives you heat pump and battery heater.

The 64kWh version has nominal voltage 356V and nominal capacity 180Ah. (60Ah * 3)
The 39.2kWh version has nominal voltage 327V and nominal capacity 120Ah. (60Ah * 2)

It seems highly likely given these figures that the cells used in the Kona EV are almost the same as the one we have seen in the B olt EV.
Hence the 64kWh version has 3 cells in parallel to form a cell group and the the 39.2kWh version has 2.
For 64kWh version - 3.7V * 60Ah * 288 cells = 64kWh and 3.7V * 96 cell triplets = 355.2V
compared to the B olt EV - 3.6V * 58Ah * 288 cells = 60kWh and 3.6V * 96 cell triplets = 345.6V

Details on this cell here - Comparing Battery Chemistries

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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:32 am

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I began this thread just over two years ago. - Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:59 am

And now finally the N iro EV is set to debut in Jeju next week at the 5th Jeju EV Expo.

기아차 전기차 '니로EV', 제주서 글로벌 첫 공개

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The two cars in the picture arrived covered in camouflage cloths. Nobody is allowed to see inside. I guess these are both early test mules and that final design and real production has yet to start.
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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Wed May 02, 2018 1:54 am

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Here's 3 more photos of the N iro EV

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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:00 am

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At the Busan Motor Show we got the first look inside the new N iro EV.
I'm disappointed. To me this is less appealing than the Soul EV.

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It looks a bit better in this video. Although there is a sign on the dash that says this is not the final production version and things may change.
The sign is not in the top picture, strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rD8-3c9NHQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmzPKA_hjV4
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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:32 am

JejuSoul wrote:-
At the Busan Motor Show we got the first look inside the new N iro EV.
I'm disappointed. To me this is less appealing than the Soul EV.


I agree. This is not a good looking interior

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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:22 am

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For comparison here is the K ona EV. The design is much more modern. I assume these design choices are deliberate. The K ona EV is aimed at a younger demographic than the N iro EV.

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And one of the first videos by a user.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIis5ipms3A
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Re: Kia Niro EV to launch later this year

Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:11 am

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The N iro EV has almost been released in Korea. (almost because the early reservation holders are being asked to configure from a photocopied sheet.)
Here's a photo of the price sheet.

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It's 1 million won or about 1000 USD more expensive than the Kona EV
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